Re: [MD] Are qualities memories?

[David M]

When we experience qualities are these a form of memory?
Why do we value experiences differently?

David M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Krimel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Collective intelligence


> Micah,
>
> [!Crime!]I really like that! Mind if I use it?
>
> If not I suppose ]Crime[ might work...
>
> Maybe this is, you say potato and I say potatoe. But I say, you and I
> actually do share the exact same memories of Viet Nam in ways that have
> never in history been possible. There is old news footage and still 
> images.
> Have you seen Platoon, Full Metal Jacket, Born on the Fourth of July, The
> Dearhunter? How many songs in the soundtrack of Apocalypse Now were 
> familiar
> to you? Woodstock, Easy Rider. How about Kent State and CSN&Y's Four Way
> Street album?
>
> How many stupid burglar videos are on YouTube? Many of the memories you 
> and
> I share about VietNam, 911, the moon landing, the Super Bowl, the season
> ending of Lost are all experienced in nearly identical fashion.
>
> Not only that but search engines make access to this information nearly
> instantaneous. You don't have to watch television in real time anymore. If
> you missed the season ending of Lost you can rent it from NetFlix or buy 
> it
> in Walmart.
>
> These memories are not collected anywhere. We each have to seek them out 
> but
> there are more of them and they are easier to get ever in history. This is
> an expansion of consciousness and collective awareness beyond anything the
> giants we are standing on could ever have imagined.
>
> ]!Crime![
>
> "I remember how she held me, oh so tight. Wish I didn't know now what I
> didn't know then."
> -Bob Seger
>
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
>
> We share our memories with others, but we do not have "collective memory";
> we have shared collected memory. I can read about the Vietnam War, but 
> that
> does not mean I have a memory of it. Or I can share a memory with you, but
> you only have a story of my memory, not my memory. There is no "collective
> memory" or "collective intelligence". We stand on the shoulders of giants,
> but we are not the giants.
>
> "Lately I've been dancing in ceiling fans, in through the kitchen and out
> the back gate".
>                                                          - Butthole 
> Surfers
>
>
> Micah
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <Micah,
>
> <I guess I did not think my use of the term library would be taken quite 
> so
> <literally. Information is collected in a library. Our common shared
> memories
> <are distributed in libraries, the internet, in video stores and record
> <shops, in photo albums and diaries, in the studio values and television
> <network archives.
>
> <Among the greatest crimes of the past century was that idea that this
> <collective memory could be owned and metered.
>
> <Krimel
>
> <"We all live in a yellow submarine."
> <-Ringo Starr
>
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