At 02:11 AM 5/12/2007, Akshay wrote: >I'm not pretending to be any sort of authority on the MoQ, and have also had >no association with Pirsig other than the writer-reader relationship. > >1. I'm not sure if Pirsig would agree with the phrase "experiencing >qualities" because it's not qualities, it's Quality; and secondly, Quality >itself is experience. Initially, when I was lost in the cryptic beginning of >ZAMM, I thought Quality was supposed to mean not Goodness but >"characteristic" (and hence supposed to mean any state of mind other than >dreamless sleep), simply because I couldn't conceive how everything could be >Good; and even if everything was good, how do you even know what is good >(because to know the good you need to know the bad -- you can't just know >the colour blue, you have to know it in relation to some other colour).
Akshay, Above you wrote, 'simply because I couldn't conceive how everything could be Good;...' (past tense). Do you understand it differently now? I think whether it can be discriminated, or not, _everything_ is Divine (Good). How does it work for you? I agree with your 2nd point too. Marsha >Quality cannot fully be associated with memory, because you also experience >something that is outside memory (I suppose, rather naively, that Dynamic >Quality and static Quality point to the difference between novelty and >memory -- though certainly this would be valid only an intellectual level, >for inorganic static patterns have no concept of memory). > >2. We value experiences differently (or rather, we value different >experiences) because our former experiences have molded us so. Now why that >is the case, I know not, because that knowledge belongs to a system outside >my mind's capacity of reach (similar to Hofstadter's explanation). Maybe >because there are patterns greater than us that decide what each part of the >system is supposed to value (the Giant). > >-- Akshay moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
