Again, following along the lines of what Platt
quoted as follows:
> > [Platt quotes Pirsig]
> > > "Where biological
> > > values are undermining social values
> intellectuals
> > > must identify social behavior,
> > > not matter its ethnic connection, and support it
> all
> > > the way without restraint.
> > > Intellectuals must find biological behavior, no
> > > matter what its ethnic connection,
> > > and limit or destroy destructive biological
> patterns
> > > with complete moral
> > > ruthlessness., the way a doctor destroys germs,
> > > before those biological patterns
> > > destroy civilization itself. (Lila,24)
[SA previously]
> > Yes, the levels define moral behavior, and we
> are intellectually trying to discover what level
> certain events belong. This above quote merely
> generalizes the MoQ's effort. Yes, merely...
[Platt]
> If you will take the trouble to examine the context
> of the above quote you will see Pirsig calling
"robbing" a
> biological value. He also identifies "theft" as a
biological pattern in
> several places in Lila.
Again, what is robbing? Taking something of
somebodies elses, right? Without their permission,
right? Cultural bounds of property rights, right?
What of a flower a bee uses for honey? Are we bound
to respect this flower as the bees property? How
about in the case of humans? Is all war theft and
robbery? We may need to admit that cases of
intellectuality may allow for robbery and/or theft.
As David M. pointed out, what of Robin Hood? Do we
need to weigh out who is more corrupt from the other,
before we take from them, such as land (Amerindians,
etc...)? Are we obligated to give back what was
stolen? What of ideas? Some fight that music is not
to be burned on CD's from computer programming, and
yet, township (public) libraries hand out free books
and videos - our taxes and gifts support such free
hand out's. Should authors and movie producers go
after these places? The line is not so rigid, as
usual.
By the way, the above quote does not say include
the word robbery. That's why I said it generalizes.
[Platt quotes]
> Example:
>
> "Second, there were moral codes that established the
> supremacy of the social order
> over biological life conventional morals
> proscriptions against drugs, murder,
> adultery, theft and the like." (Lila, 13)
Sure, and this was my original point. We, this
social order, have declared what is theft. The court
system and legislation system and at times the
executive branch is involved in deciding any new
issues that may arise. For one, theft and killing is
illegal, but war is not. Christianity says turn the
other cheek, but at times finds war justifiable. I'm
not saying these are clear-cut wrong and/or right,
just the opposite, I'm saying we get these ideas and a
society of people, especially in a republic such as
the U.S., gets together somewhere and decides upon
these matters according to their own interests. To
the other tribes the Navajo were probably rude and
bad, to the Navajo they themselves did a good serve
for their own people. The U.S. not only raided these
tribes, but they cut their hairs and said talk
English. Now-a-days we recognize what the U.S. did
was bad, right? But during those times, the
persuasive people said 'a good indian is a dead
indian'. As I said, Star Trek might be a brujo saying
we don't need $, yet, now-a-days $ seems to be the
best option in handing out the spoils or are spoils
called goods or rights of a hard working business suit
character - in another country, New Guinea, if you
have a lot of pigs in your care, well, your the Big
Man. Hey, if we all turn in our paper and get pigs we
could be Big Men.
So, who's the bad guy? Who's the right guy?
What's the right way? I think it has something to do
with the question mark.
woods, woods, woods,
SA
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