Your not confusing.  Yes, quality is undefined
and defined.  You say mu.  I agree with mu.  I say ?
and ? is mu.

SA




     [Marsha]
>       Sorry if I'm confusing.  To me, the MoQ is a
> monist, 
> metaphysics based on an undefined Quality.  Quality
> is 
> everything.  Quality is without definition, meaning
> or 
> connotation.  Quality, while experienced, is beyond
> human 
> understanding.  Betterness is a term with a positive
> connotation and 
> cannot equate to Quality.  Betterness is a
> relational term.  Quality 
> is not relational.  Quality is everything, and
> therefore when plugged 
> into the water analogy it stays unchanged: having no
> meaning, 
> undefined.  Betterness is a word based on
> comparison.  A monistic 
> Quality doesn't allow for comparison.  And a
> betterness, which is 
> based on comparison, cannot be monistic.  A
> relational term like 
> betterness becomes absurd when placed in the water
> analogy.
> 
> Another way to look at Quality is to see it as
> representing ALL 
> values which would equate to NO value.  (Does this
> make sense?)
> 
> Of course, while considering the MOQ within a 3rd or
> 4th 
> level,  comparison is inevitable.  But not in a MOQ
> reality.  The two 
> shouldn't be confused.
> 
> Mu, or as Hathor might put it, moo.
> 
> 
> Marsha
> 
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