Hi Micah Might point would be what could happen is different and has a form of reality that what could not happen does not have. It can rain water, it can't rain cats and dogs. The possible is real and determines where the present can go. The past is merely static the future the source of the dynamic.
David M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Micah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:46 AM Subject: Re: [MD] Animals and Dynamic Quality > Craig > > < "It will rain on Hawaii" > > Has no connection to the following statements and I'm not sure why you put > it in there, but it rains in Hawaii, it does not "will rain", that is > speculation, and although almost a given, potential and reality are to > different things. Potential could happen, reality is happening. A huge > difference > > > < "It rained on Hawaii before (wo)man existed" > > How would you know? > > > < "If (wo)man had been on Hawaii at the time in question, (s)he would have > experienced raining." > > So, IF it had been raining, which cannot know since no one was there to > verify, and IF s/he were present, rain would be experienced. > > If we had bread, we could make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, if we > had > peanut butter and jelly. So let's eat! > > The second half requires a definition of time, what is yours? > > > Micah > > > > > > > "It will rain on Hawaii" means the same as "If (wo)man will be on Hawaii > at > the time in question, (s)he will experience raining." That answers the > semantic question. > > The epistemological question is different. Given that it is possible (= > makes sense) that it rained on Hawaii before (wo)man existed, what reason > could we have for this? Possibly a fossil fern leaf (of the kind of fern > which we have found only exists when & where there is rain.) > Craig > > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
