Quoting ARLO J BENSINGER JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> [Arlo had asked]
> 1. What it could do differently "then" as opposed to "now"? Give me an example
> of what a "single animal" could do when it had the ability to respond to DQ,
> that it can no longer do.
> 
> [Platt]
> A combination of mutation and environment resulted in a particular animal's
> response to DQ.
> 
> [Arlo]
> But what it (the single animal) do "then", when it could respond to DQ, that 
> it
> can no longer do? 
> 
> [Arlo had asked]
> 2. When did single animals lose their ability to respond to DQ? Was it when
> "man" popped up? 
> 
> [Platt]
> No. It was when animals became static patterns. The man animal represented an
> increase in versatility and responses to DQ. 
> 
> [Arlo]
> Now I'm confused. Here you seem to be saying that the "cells" (read each
> individual cell) could respond to DQ, but the "animal" they formed could not?
> So let me ask again, was there ever one single animal that could respond to 
> DQ?
> How did it behave differently? What could that single animal do that it is no
> longer capable of doing?
> 
> [Arlo previously]
> Movement that is the result of "it's better here" is the result of DQ.
> 
> [Platt] 
> And when does that happen? When the wind blows in a different direction or the
> tide comes in?
> 
> [Arlo]
> The static patterns we perceive as "wind" and "tide" are the result of
> inorganic patterns of value responding to DQ on the inorganic levels. Needless
> to say, the repertoire of response on this level is quite limited, but
> inorganic patterns today behave as they always have. They did not "lose" the
> ability to respond to DQ. Unless you can kindly point out to me how inorganic
> patterns behaved differently when they could respond to DQ? But let's just
> stick with biological patterns (such as animals) for now. 

I can see this conversation is going nowhere. I never said the cells respond
to DQ. And if you think the wind and tide respond to DQ -- well, we will never
agree because the wind and tides are going nowhere from an evolutionary 
perspective. They are now and will forever be static patterns incapable of
evolving into anything other than what they are, just like my cat, UTOE.
So if you don't mind, I'll pass. Maybe you can continue the conversation with
Micah. 
 


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