Hi Platt But coercion requires cooperation. Let's get together later and bring some large sticks?
DM ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Is morality Hard Wired? > Quoting Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> [Platt] >> Who is this "we" you speak of? A suicide bomber? Seems she would be >> excluded >> from the hard-wired morality of playing nice that some science types are >> claiming evolved from our animal ancestors -- the monkey people. >> >> [Krimel] >> When Shermer talks about this he notes the difference between, within >> group >> violence and between group violence. Among humans we call this tribal >> warfare. Suicide bomber are practicing between group violence. They are >> also >> subject to substantial social pressure which may override hardwiring. >> >> To say that we inherit certain traits does not mean we can not overcome >> them. It really just speaks to the difficulty in doing so. > > Human history, especially of the twentieth century, belies the notion that > hard-wired benevolence is difficult to overcome. It suggests instead that > we are hard-wired for aggression, especially against those who are > strangers > and/or different than us. Co-operation is pretty much limited to one's own > in-group. Or, as Pirsig wrote, "Cooperation without coercion is a > devastating > fiction." > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
