> [SA]
>      So, your saying being aware of relativity? 
> Einsteins relativity?

 
> > [Ron]
> Oddly enough, yes.... E=MC2 is the formula for
calculating how 
> much energy is possible out of a particular piece of
matter given the > type of atoms it is composed of. He
said the energy of an atom 
> fluctuated depending on environment it is in and was
effected by the > energy transfer of the particles
surrounding it.  Einstein and Pirsig 
> are very similar in this theory,

    I agree.  This influence is most directly
transferable upon the level of change.  The inorganic
level, very stable, right?, but also very wide-spread,
thus, very, very influential.  Intellectual level, not
very stable {stability is either an evolutionary,
timeline, thus, the amount of time the static level
has been present or it could be its' very nature,
thus, the intellectual level, for example, is not very
stable and will stay, not very stable due to its'
nature or its' way.}  The intellectual level, though
not very stable/lasting (comparatively) can be very,
very influential, too, probably due to its'
supervisionary way (intellect can look 'back', 'upon',
'over', or be have supervision powers, as I would
declare each higher level has this ability over the
preceding founding level).


     [Ron]
> This along with Topos and everything else I've been
investigating, 
> leads me to the conclusion along the line of what
you stated, that we > effect our environment just as
much as our environment influences > us, not only
molecularly, but socially, intellectually and
biologically,
> that is why I say that we wield a power that often
times we are
> unaware of.

    True.  This "unware of" can happen in so many
instances, but I'm thinking of one, due to my direct
experience of what's happening in my life at the
moment.  Bravery, takes guts, for what the possible
outcomes, might be.  Being ones newfound changing
self, in public, in front of authorities, people that
have the hiring and firing in their hands - how far
can ones personality be publicly taken.  We will
offend each other.  Without violence, I would say
allowing ones natural raw edge to be explicit at times
(the side of ones personality that is more real to
oneself, the side that comes out amongst friends and
family), instead of the always, usual public mannerism
that are culturally engrained.  To challenge authority
is to make authority accountable.  I reflect upon
myself, as an authority figure at work, and find the
more I let my disgusted come out, the more I'm talking
like a resident, now still, the only difference is I'm
not putting holes in walls, yelling and swearing at
anybody, nobody in particular, threatening to kill,
hit somebody, but you know what - I do sometimes think
about running.  Running away from my problems at work,
and finding a new job.  So, how am I different from a
resident that runs and tries to get away?  I'd be hard
pressed to find a big difference.  Also, what's so
different about this resident that wanted to take a
sick day, cause she knew she would get into a lot of
trouble that day, for the night before she found out
her parents want to get a divorce, and therefore knew
she would not be pleasant and things will easily
irritate her, and myself, where I took a sick day two
days ago (my second or third the whole time I've
worked at this job and for the same reasons) because I
couldn't get myself to go into work for I was either
going to have a heart-attack or want to chop
somebodies head off - so, how am I different?  The AM
staff wouldn't let her take a sick day, but I'm
allowed, and for the same reasons.  I've refused a
resident to take a mental sick day before, but I do
the same thing myself!!!!  Wake UP!  Wake UP SA!!!!!! 
Is it not the culture, the social level where new
intellectual patterns of value are to be instilled?  I
would say yes, and you?


     [Ron]
> The question is, to be a relative "cog" and merely
transfer the effects > or to exercise free will and
manipulate what you transfer and how 
> you tranfer it.

     To bow down to authority ("relative 'cog'") or
allow ones intellect to join with existing social
patterns of value (if taken by my direct experience
example above).  Or by "relative 'cog'" or free will,
are you questioning what's reality out of the two?  If
the latter, then I would say that no matter what we're
transferring whether passed down/across without our
own input or not, the transferring is still
enabling/influential/influencing a static pattern of
value.


some blue sky peeking,
SA


       
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