I'm a shiny spinner kind of fish - peew!... splash... hmmm, this cloudy day with rain, the water's much warmer.
SA > SA asks: > > > Platt, why do you like to discuss nudity so > > much? > > It's limits of freedom I like to discuss. Nudity > happened to be in the > news today. I thought it was an interesting jumping > off point for that > discussion. I'm sorry if you find it offensive in > some way.. > > > This is another topic, that if Arlo involves > > himself, that can go on and on, with questions not > > being answered, challenges being made, possible > > immoral slandering, etc, etc... I've seen it > before > > here. Direct experience on the intellectual > level. > > We all can check the archives on this topic, > unless > > your casting your hook for possible newbies or > oldies. > > That's why we call this forum isn't it? Of course, > smearing those > who disagree with you is uncalled for in a civilized > discussion. But if > that's the game some want to play, I'm not going to > run and hide. > > > I agree with Marsha. The body doesn't have to be > put > > in check by social level patterns, always. > > Agree. "Always" is the operative word. > > > I mean > > we're talking about nudity - basic biological > patterns > > of value. Now, isn't it what the biological > patterns > > of value are doing that has the social level find > a > > need to intervene or not. Is it what these nudest > > people are doing that you don't like, or is it > > biological patterns themselves that you think > social > > patterns must always intervene upon? > > As Pirsig says, social patterns are necessary to > restrain biological > patterns. (I don't think he meant "always.") I agree > with Pirsig. > Do you? > > Are you questioning whether nudity is a biological > value? > > Are you questioning the morality of temporary ban on > public nudity and > limit of freedom passed by officials in > Brattleboro? > > Thanks. > > Have a nice day. > > > > woods, > > SA > > > > > > > > [Platt] > > > >In several posts recently the question of > limits on > > > freedom (state > > > >governance) has come up. In Vermont there has > > > "emerged" :-) a classic case > > > >about freedom to parade down main street in the > > > nude. For the story, see: > > > > > > >http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1823185120070718?feedType > > >= > > > >RSS&rpc=22&sp=true > > > >With the MOQ moral levels in mind, do you think > the > > > restriction on public nudity is justified? To me > > it's a case of social > > > level patterns keeping biological patterns in > check. > > > > [Marsha] > > > Having spent many, many hours in life study > classes, > > > I find the body > > > endlessly fascinating and beautiful. I've spent > > > more than a few > > > hours being nude at the beaches in Spain, I > don't > > > understand the problem. > > > > > > Marsha > > > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
