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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:38:07 -0400
From: Miguel Eduardo Delgado Burbano
Reply-To: Miguel Eduardo Delgado Burbano
Subject: Re: landmark configuration reflection
To: morphmet@morphometrics.org
Hi Andrea
Again thanks for your guidelines. Yes actually Denis Slice sent me days ago a
new version of Morpheus where it is possible to reflect a landmark
configuration, I tested such interface in Morpheus and works quite fine!!.
However, the procedure in PAST is new for me so I will explore.
best
Miguel
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 3:07 AM, wrote:
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 21:10:19 -0700
From: morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org
Reply-To: morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org
Subject: Re: landmark configuration reflection
To: morphmet@morphometrics.org
----- Forwarded message from andrea cardini -----
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 02:38:19 -0400
From: andrea cardini
Reply-To: andrea cardini
Subject: Re: landmark configuration reflection
To: morphmet@morphometrics.org, morphmet@morphometrics.org
Not sure if I had replied yet. If so, my apologies for re-replying.
We wrote a mini-tutorial about how to do this
'exploiting' some of the options of the old Morpheus et al.:
Cardini A., Diniz Filho J. A. F., Polly P. D.,
Elton S., 2010 -
Biogeographic
analysis using geometric morphometrics: clines in
skull size and shape in a widespread African
arboreal monkey. A. M. T. Elewa (Ed.),
Morphometrics for Nonmorphometricians, Lecture
Notes in Earth Sciences 124, Springer-Verlag
Publishers, Heidelberg, Germany. DOI 10.1007/978-3-540-95853-6_8.
For 2D data it's even easier using a baseline
superimposition (and then rescaling back the
specimens) as an intermediate step. I don't think
I wrote somewhere how to do it step by step by,
again, it can be done in both PAST and Morpheus with a tiny bit of effort.
Contrary to something (inaccurate) I may have
written in older papers, I would do all analyses
using the 'symmetrized' left side (or right side,
whatever ...) after removing small asymmetries on
the midplane (assuming one is not working on
dolphins or the like and asymmetries are really
small). One gets a better superimposition where
midplane landmarks cannot be off the midplane (as
it happens using just one side). Data contains
redundant info but that can be dealt with either
using PCs with non-zero eigenvalues or using resampling methods for testing.
Cheers
Andrea
At 21:50 13/06/2014, morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org wrote:
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>
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 04:01:02 -0400
> From: Carmelo Fruciano
> Reply-To: Carmelo Fruciano
> Subject: Re: landmark configuration reflection
> To: morphmet@morphometrics.org
>
>morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org ha scritto:
>
> >
> > ----- Forwarded message from Miguel Eduardo Delgado Burbano -----
> >
> > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 17:59:15 -0300
> > From: Miguel Eduardo Delgado Burbano
> > Reply-To: Miguel Eduardo Delgado Burbano
> > Subject: landmark configuration reflection
> > To: morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > I am performing a 2D geometric morphometric study using human
> > skulls. In a previous research I digitized several landmarks and
> > semilandmarks in the right half of the face, but now I am trying to
> > perform an analysis using the complete face (i.e both halfs), so in
> > order to not digitized again perhaps I can reflect the right
> > landmark configuration on the left side. Since the reflection is
> > performed during the procrustes (GPA) perhaps a particular software
> > allows to reflect the landmark configuration  TPS, MorphoJ, GeoMorph
> > etc??Â
> >
> > Â Â any suggestions?
>
>Hi Miguel,
>Normally these days when I have to do these reflections I use Matlab.
>For an older paper (Fruciano et al. 2011 - It J Zool) I think I used
>LMedit from the IMP package (it's been a while now).
>However, if your data is only on half of the face, I would perform the
>analysis only on half the face and then use reflection across a
>symmetry axis only to display the results...
>Best,
>Carmelo
>
>--
>Carmelo Fruciano
>Marie Curie Fellow - University of Konstanz - Konstanz, Germany
>Honorary Fellow - University of Catania - Catania, Italy
>e-mail c.fruci...@unict.it
>http://www.fruciano.it/research/
>
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Dr. Andrea Cardini
Researcher in Animal Biology, Dipartimento di
Scienze Chimiche e Geologiche, Università di
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Adjunct Associate Professor, Centre for Forensic
Science , The University of Western Australia, 35
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