Which brings us back to the original message of life needing both kinds of
motivation....
Bill


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laura Cannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:44 PM
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> I completely agree--I was thinking more of the paycheck
extrinsic-intrinsic
> reward replies and deleted a reply I had been working on.  I also feel
very
> intrinsically rewarded when a student reads a book they love, shows
> improvement in reading, gets excited about a book etc.  That is the reason
I
> teach--but I need the paycheck to eat and pay the credit cards etc.
> Laura
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Roberts
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 5:47 PM
> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Listserv
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Question for the group
>
> On the contrary....when a child reads a chapter book for the first time in
8
> years of school, I benefit from the feeling I get knowing I was a part of
> that discovery.  When a child discovers a new author (which happens to be
an
> AR book, btw) which I recommended, I benefit.  As far as grades go, when a
> child succeeds in figuring out the main idea of a reading selection or
> become better at a particular reading strategy THAT I TAUGHT, believe me
> when I say I benefit from that.  A child doesn't just earn a grade...if I
> didn't teach the content properly, it's my job to teach them and
assignments
> reflect how well I taught...
>
> Finally, if the entire school is doing AR, and my students don't, don't
you
> think my principal would come down on me faster than King Kong jumping off
> the Empire State Building?  When she sees my kids getting AR points, she
is
> happy...and when the boss is happy, we are all happy.
>
> Bill
> BTW, Laura, we may be stepping just beyond the groups purpose here, but if
> the MOT strategies are not taught with the goal of creating life-long
> readers, then what good are they besides making better test takers?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lori Labrum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Listserv"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 7:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Question for the group
>
>
> > No, paycheck are not extrinsic rewards.  They are a payment for a
service
> in
> > which the exployer benefits.  Students are not giving US a service when
> they
> > read a book and are awarded points.  Grades are not given because of
> > something a student does "FOR US".  A paycheck is something entirely
> > different.  We would not continue to work and give our service without
the
> > check, this is true, but what benefit do I (school teacher/employer) get
> > when a student reads?  Extrinsic reward is when you give something to
> > someone because they did something good without you, yourself,
> benefitting.
> > When you benefit from someones work and you give them a reward or money
or
> > whatever, that is a payment for services, even if the person didn't
expect
> > it to come.  The point is in who is receiving the benefit.
>
>
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