I agree that some kids need explicit instruction. I just think the explicit instruction should come after, not before, a more discovery-based approach. That doesn't mean that I always adhere to that philosophy, and in fact I think modeling is very important in some situations. It's just that I am very wary of showing kids so much what to do that they get into a place where they can't function unless somebody models for them first.

I'm just sayin'
Renee

On Jun 13, 2009, at 12:30 PM, [email protected] wrote:


Renee
You bring up an interesting point and one I have been thinking about too.
My first thought was...it depends! Some kids may need explicit
instruction...others will remember and internalize the strategy better if they discover it for themselves. Before I read Mosaic or Reading with Meaning, my first
exposure to the teaching of comprehension strategies was though a
presentation by Roger Farr. He had a lesson design where he modeled thinking during reading ... but asked the kids to notice and name the strategy themselves. If you google Roger Farr, I wouldn't be surprised if he still had the Think
Along lessons on his website.

Anyway, when I tried his lessons, they were pretty effective...but not for everyone. Now I am using more explicit modeling with a gradual release of responsibility...much like in the Comprehension Toolkit and those lessons
are  also pretty effective...but not with everyone.
I wonder how we could combine approaches to hit the needs of more learners.
Interesting thoughts, Renee, as usual!
Jennifer

In a message dated 6/13/2009 10:22:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

While  following this discussion, I have begun wondering something.
First,  I will say that I have little personal schema for explicitly
teaching the strategies, partly because I've not been teaching in a
regular classroom for the last four years or so. But I am wondering
whether, especially with confident readers, the strategies can be
*taught* largely through the kinds of questions we ask children, so
that they are pushed to use the strategies. For example, in a book
discussion with a child, if we ask, "what did you see in your mind's
eye while you were reading this section" would/could/should  inherently
push a child to learn to visualize. I guess I am looking  at more of a
natural and constructivist direction. And I am talking especially about
readers who are basically fluent and already have  adequate/good
comprehension abilities.

Whatcha  think?
Renee



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