I also agree. This is one of the big points I got from Ellin's book To  
Understand. By asking kids what the strategy helped them to understand about 
the  book, we send the message that the strategies are a vehicle, not the end  
point. 
 
One other thing that crossed my mind is this thought: What if we want more  
for kids than just an ability to discuss and comprehend texts? What  if, as 
Ellin writes in To Understand, we want kids to also have an  opportunity to 
be scholarly...to understand more deeply how their own mind  works? There 
is a joy I find in deep intellectual engagement (like this  discussion!). :-) 
 What if we need to give our kids that are the  stronger readers  the 
strategy language and then help them to see  HOW their mind comes to comprehend 
in order to give them the chance to learn the  joys of being scholarly? It 
isn't that I don't value  independent reading and student led discussion. It 
is important...and may  even be of primary importance. I just have this 
nagging feeling that maybe there  is more we can ask of these kids.
 
I haven't thought all of this through yet...and maybe I am way off  base. I 
would welcome everyone's input.
Jennifer
 In a message dated 6/13/2009 1:05:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

I know  that your statement is so true.  Most of my students first   
learn to say I have a connection.  Which I really appreciate,  because  
this is an easy way to help them see how having a connection  helps  
them to understand what they read. Last year I had a child who  had  
visited a reservation, his sharing of his connections helped us  all to  
understand the story we were reading about a  reservation.  A real aha  
moment for my class.
PatK.
On  Jun 13, 2009, at 7:11 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> That being  said, if the conversation that the children are having is  
>  centering on their strategies like, “I made a connection,” or “I   
> could visualize this part,” we must push them to explain why  that  
> helped them to understand the story or text. Strategies  serve the  
> reader as a means to understand or deepen  understanding of what we  
> read. So “talking the talk” of  strategies has to be linked to  
> “walking the walk” of  understanding what is being read.
>


 
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