Oh I so agree.  I think huge things happen during conferencing when other
Students listen in.  It's like stones in a pond - the ripples spread.  I've
always thought this was a metaphor for how learning spreads in a classroom.
You go Joy!

sally


On 6/13/09 2:22 PM, "Joy" <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Here's what I'm thinking, you start with a Read Aloud/Think Aloud. Then you
> ask the students what they notice about your thinking. Ask them to define what
> you are doing. Send them off to read, and conference with them individually,
> being more explicit with those who need the explicit instruction. I've noticed
> that frequently the students near the one I'm conferencing with will join in
> the conversation, or at least listen carefully.
> 
> Of course this depends on the age/ability level of your readers, and what
> kind/how much strategy instruction they've already had.
> 
> 
> Joy/NC/4
>  
> How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go
> hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:30:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?
> 
> 
> Renee
> You bring up an interesting point and one I have been thinking about too.
> My first thought was...it depends! Some kids may need explicit
> instruction...others will remember and internalize the strategy better if they
> discover 
> it for themselves. Before I read Mosaic or Reading with Meaning, my  first
> exposure to the teaching of comprehension strategies was though a
> presentation by Roger Farr. He had a lesson design where he modeled thinking
> during 
> reading ... but asked the kids to notice and name the strategy  themselves.
> If you google Roger Farr, I wouldn't be surprised if he still had  the Think
> Along lessons on his website.
> 
> Anyway, when I tried his lessons, they were pretty effective...but not for
> everyone. Now I am using more explicit modeling with a gradual release of
> responsibility...much like in the Comprehension Toolkit and those lessons
> are  also pretty effective...but not with everyone.
> I wonder how we could combine approaches to hit the needs of more  learners.
> Interesting thoughts, Renee, as usual!
> Jennifer
> 
> In a message dated 6/13/2009 10:22:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [email protected] writes:
> 
> While  following this discussion, I have begun wondering something.
> First,  I will say that I have little personal schema for explicitly
> teaching the strategies, partly because I've not been teaching in a
> regular classroom for the last four years or so. But I am wondering
> whether, especially with confident readers, the strategies can be
> *taught* largely through the kinds of questions we ask children, so
> that they are pushed to use the strategies. For example, in a book
> discussion with a child, if we ask, "what did you see in your mind's
> eye while you were reading this section" would/could/should  inherently
> push a child to learn to visualize. I guess I am looking  at more of a
> natural and constructivist direction. And I am talking  especially about
> readers who are basically fluent and already have  adequate/good
> comprehension abilities.
> 
> Whatcha  think?
> Renee
> 
> 
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