We are sayin' the same thing sister! Renee, we are so much alike it's spooky!
Joy/NC/4 How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org ----- Original Message ---- From: Renee <[email protected]> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:06:27 PM Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies? I agree that some kids need explicit instruction. I just think the explicit instruction should come after, not before, a more discovery-based approach. That doesn't mean that I always adhere to that philosophy, and in fact I think modeling is very important in some situations. It's just that I am very wary of showing kids so much what to do that they get into a place where they can't function unless somebody models for them first. I'm just sayin' Renee On Jun 13, 2009, at 12:30 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Renee > You bring up an interesting point and one I have been thinking about too. > My first thought was...it depends! Some kids may need explicit > instruction...others will remember and internalize the strategy better if > they discover > it for themselves. Before I read Mosaic or Reading with Meaning, my first > exposure to the teaching of comprehension strategies was though a > presentation by Roger Farr. He had a lesson design where he modeled thinking > during > reading ... but asked the kids to notice and name the strategy themselves. > If you google Roger Farr, I wouldn't be surprised if he still had the Think > Along lessons on his website. > > Anyway, when I tried his lessons, they were pretty effective...but not for > everyone. Now I am using more explicit modeling with a gradual release of > responsibility...much like in the Comprehension Toolkit and those lessons > are also pretty effective...but not with everyone. > I wonder how we could combine approaches to hit the needs of more learners. > Interesting thoughts, Renee, as usual! > Jennifer > > In a message dated 6/13/2009 10:22:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > While following this discussion, I have begun wondering something. > First, I will say that I have little personal schema for explicitly > teaching the strategies, partly because I've not been teaching in a > regular classroom for the last four years or so. But I am wondering > whether, especially with confident readers, the strategies can be > *taught* largely through the kinds of questions we ask children, so > that they are pushed to use the strategies. For example, in a book > discussion with a child, if we ask, "what did you see in your mind's > eye while you were reading this section" would/could/should inherently > push a child to learn to visualize. I guess I am looking at more of a > natural and constructivist direction. And I am talking especially about > readers who are basically fluent and already have adequate/good > comprehension abilities. > > Whatcha think? > Renee > > > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377049x1201454365/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= > JunestepsfooterNO62) > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > "Learning isn't a means to an end; it is an end in itself." ~ Robert A. Heinlein _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
