I have Roger Farr's presentation and maybe we could post it if others want
it.  I too used his presentation and I taught all the strategies
simultaneously.  And had kids apply them in reading logs (the split page
type with quotes from the text on one side and responses - using the
strategies on the other.)  this was pre stickie notes!!!  And the strategies
weren't the exact 8 that Keene et al use but they were all there.

Anyway I've thought about that a lot since.  It worked very very well - once
I modeled and shared kids responses for awhile.  BUT it didn't work with
everyone.  And so what I've been thinking since Mosaics and STW is that
I might have done better with more focus and a longer time and not sadly
lost some of the kids!  It's all about differentiation.  I needed to figure
out how to go longer and more explicitly or with better guidance for some.
And I certainly could be more flexible and let rich discussions albeit
without specific mention of strategies for others.

In fact, we had several big discussions about reading logs.  Some kids felt
they interrupted their reading....were willing to do after if we needed to
have things remembered for discussion.  Other kids liked to note as they
went.  I have recently looked back at the evolution of those reading logs
over 4 years and they were very very different in the end from the first
class I did this with.The first ones looked so artificial I must say.  The
later ones looked like "talking with the text" naturally.  I wasn't
conscious of changing or growing but I must have!!! I say bravo to all of
you who listen to your kids and hold great discussions about all of this.
I am always so glad for this list.

Sally



On 6/13/09 12:30 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

>  
> Renee
> You bring up an interesting point and one I have been thinking about too.
> My first thought was...it depends! Some kids may need explicit
> instruction...others will remember and internalize the strategy better if they
> discover 
> it for themselves. Before I read Mosaic or Reading with Meaning, my  first
> exposure to the teaching of comprehension strategies was though a
> presentation by Roger Farr. He had a lesson design where he modeled thinking
> during 
> reading ... but asked the kids to notice and name the strategy  themselves.
> If you google Roger Farr, I wouldn't be surprised if he still had  the Think
> Along lessons on his website.



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