hahaha Joy.....

The first year my son was in high school, his best friend's mom and I were helping the dozen or so girls in the marching band color guard put elastics in the necks of their costumes/uniforms. She and I discovered that the ONLY students present who knew how to thread a needle and sew a button were OUR TWO SONS! :-)

Renee


On Jun 14, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Joy wrote:

omg, one of the defining moments that got me to quit my job and go back to college and become a teacher was when camping with Girl Scouts. It was time to prepare dinner, and being the constructivist that I am, I pretty much left it up to the girls.(I didn't know that's what it is called) It wasn't very long before I discovered that they did not know how to slice, chop, or peel any vegetables or fruit. These girls were in middle school!

Last year I brought in a chef who taught each child basic cutting skills, allowing them to do the chopping, slicing, and peeling while he stood nearby. The kids made 8 large trays of sushi for our international festival. They did it ALL. I watched him teaching them, guiding them, and used what I learned from him with my class this year. I plan to always give students experiences with real life skills. I think parents today coddle their kids way too much.


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Hi Deidra,

I agree with you and whoever said that it is also due to parents' expectations. I recall two years ago when I was working in a Kindergarten classroom and we had a certain student who was VERY bright but who sometimes just seemed to really lack confidence. Then one day we were making "stone soup" and his mom came in to help with the vegetable preparation, etc. She and I were working at a table together, calling each student over to cut up the particular vegetable he/she had brought. While I was guiding each child in the use of a knife, watching carefully while he or she did the cutting, this mom was doing ALL the cutting FOR the child while the child watched her. I kid you not. I got a huge insight that day.

Renee

On Jun 14, 2009, at 5:04 AM, djchan wrote:

Renee,
I am a retired teacher and I found these same problems when I taught. I think it comes from adults in the child's life who are controlling and do not allow the child to learn by mistakes. I once had a child (boy) in my first grade classroom who was held back because of failure to perform. Trying to get him to put anything on paper was a nightmare. He was so scared of making a mistake that he refused to try to do anything. I later found out his previous teacher stood over him while working and pointed out every mistake he made and he had to do it all over. It took over half the school year for him to relax and gain confidence in himself before he could write anything other than his name on a piece of paper. He ended the year well but had lots more 'trauma' to overcome from that year with the controlling teacher. Children who have issues with self confidence ie "Is this right?" have not been allowed to feel successful after a mistake and fear being wrong
and punished. They don't understand that it's ok to make mistakes and that mistakes are normal parts of learning.
I hope you have a very successful school year next year.

Deidra Chandler
MA Reading
MA Early Childhood Ed.
ps. I teach adult education now and still find this same mentality among them.

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I teach Art to Kindergarten, first, and second graders. I have many, many, many students who constantly ask, "Is this right?" and "Can I (whatever)?" and "What do I do?" and many, many, many students who say, "I don't know how to (whatever)" and.... the most disconcerting of all.... many students who, right after I give directions for whatever we are doing and send them off to the tables to get started, will just sit there. Just sit, and sit, waiting for me to tell them to start, even though the paper and/or other materials is sitting right there in the middle of their table. I walk by and say, "I'm not sure what you are waiting for" and they look at me.

This is all AFTER I give directions, perhaps model the use of a new tool or show a couple of techniques or show a few examples (which I then put away) to spark some ideas. I always end my introduction (which takes place as a whole group, sitting on the floor), with directions to go find a seat and get started.

I really think this is a direct result of way too much direct instruction and focus on "the right thing" and "the right answer" and not enough discovery and/or inquiry. I base this, of course, on my own deductions relating to the degree of "is this right?" behavior among different classes (I taught 24 classes last year) and my impressions of their regular classroom teachers' teaching styles. Very unscientific, to be sure. :-)

A story:
I had one little boy this year, a first grader, who in the beginning of the year REALLY wanted me to tell him he was doing the right thing. Early on, I said to him, "This is art class. If you are following directions and taking care of the materials, whatever you put on the paper is going to be the right thing!" and after that, if other students asked if they were doing the right thing (which they did, often), I referred them to the first boy. On the last day of school, when we were charting what they had learned in Art class, my young man offered, "that anything you make in art class is the right thing." :-)

Renee

On Jun 13, 2009, at 6:02 PM, [email protected] wrote:


Renee
........
I am very interested in your comment about kids getting into that place where they can't function without modeling. Can you talk a little more about that idea for me? I tend to think that my kids ALREADY come to me like that...even the K kids. Maybe what we need to model is independent thought and
problem solving.
Jennifer



"The important thing is not to stop questioning."
~ Albert Einstein



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