And often programs like this work because yes repeated rereading do work But why the heck can't they be rereadings for a real purpose like a performance, why the heck cannot they be rereadings of meaningful text or text the other students are reading as part of a meaningful theme or ???
Because the teacher doesn't have the time or know how to do the work it would take to use a meaningful curriculum to do the necessary work on fluency for those who need it???????? This is happeningat our school now much to my dismay. Sally On 3/10/10 2:45 PM, "Renee" <[email protected]> wrote: > Lori, > > I absolutely agree with you. When I suggested that no "program" is > better than reading, I certainly should have clarified that I meant > "in general" and that some programs may have benefits for some > children. It is the "all" that I object to, again, in general. And I > think that if people are "in general" looking at fluency, the first > thing that should be considered is more reading at an easy level. > Just plain practice. I think schools are getting into a bad habit of > looking for "a program" for this or "a program" for that, rather than > first considering what can be done without going out and spending > tens of thousands of dollars for something that may not offer more > than just reading practice might offer. And for sure, mandating that > all students must do something because some students need > intervention is just ridiculous. > > Renee > > > On Mar 10, 2010, at 12:35 PM, EDWARD JACKSON wrote: > >> >> I think a pretty important part of this discussion has to be how >> and when such interventions are and should be used. When one of my >> boys (an above average reader, competent beyond grade level >> expectations with any measure) was in grade school, the school >> purchased an intervention and then mandated its use with all >> students. I raised hell. Sorry, but if I have a headache, we don't >> all run out and take tylenol!! As we work with kids who are having >> difficulty with reading, wouldn't it be nice to be able to reach >> for a tool or strategy...even a program, without feeling compelled >> to use it with every student. While I might find fault with many >> of commercial programs, I am willing to concede that there are some >> children that these programs might reach. For those children, I am >> equally unwilling to deny the possibility. >> >> >> Lori Jackson M.Ed.Reading Specialist >> Broken Bow, NE >> >> >> >> >> >> >> EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD >> Join me >> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:49:43 -0500 >>> From: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Fluency >>> >>> >>> I have to agree that, for most students, wide reading of "just- >>> right" or even slightly easy text will work wonders. BUT, there >>> is always a small group of kids who need a more explicit >>> intervention, whether we like it or not. I have teachers using >>> Read Naturally and the students do seem to benefit from it and >>> enjoy doing it. The teachers see the pay-off, otherwise they >>> wouldn't continue using it, but every one of them emphasizes that >>> it is only for a small group of students, carefully selected, for >>> whom other things (readers theater, choral reading, etc.) has been >>> unsuccessful. >>> >>> My school has not used this program yet, but another school in our >>> district has tried the Rewards Program. This is for 5-6 grade >>> students, I believe. While the person who implemented the program >>> admits it's not overly stimulating for the students, it did make a >>> difference in their fluency. It is a short-term program done >>> daily. I found some information on the program on the FCRR.org >>> web site (Florida Center for Reading Research). >>> >>> Again, nothing beats tons of reading to build fluency, but for the >>> student who is not a fluent reader, chances are reading has become >>> a chore and something he or she avoids. We have to actively work, >>> using the tools we have to work with, to rebuild their confidence >>> and to help them view themselves as productive readers. I also >>> agree, however, that these fluency interventions need to be a part >>> of a comprehensive instructional program, not something done in >>> isolation! >>> >>> Beth >>> Language Arts Resource Specialist, Title 1 Reading >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Deb Butterfield <[email protected]> >>> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:44 am >>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Fluency >>> >>> >>> We use the Read Naturally program. The students love it. >>>>>> "Yingling" <[email protected]> 3/9/2010 10:10 PM >>> >>> oes anyone know of an intervention program proven to improve >>> fluency in >>> pper elementary grades? Right now we have Soar to Success and >>> Great Leaps. >>> ut, these programs aren't helping our 4th/5th grade fluency. 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