On 11/27/00 5:01 AM, "Simon P. Lucy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 00:23 27/11/2000 -0500, John Welch wrote:
>> On 11/26/00 11:30 PM, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mark
>> Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yep.  Namely that a device driver really is an application in and of
>>> itself (it just happens to be an application whose sole purpose is to
>>> run a particular device), and the whole reason it breaks in Mozilla is
>>> because these drivers aren't following the guidelines of the system.
>>> They're hacking around the real system calls they *should* be using and
>>> doing it their own way.  If they used the documented methods for doing
>>> this (and the whole fiasco on the Mac is that such methods don't exist
>>> pre-Carbon; Microsoft has no excuse for their mice on Windows, because
>>> they wrote the specs :) ), there'd be no problem.
>> 
>> 
>> Be that as it may...when the scroll wheel works properly in over a hundred
>> other apps on my system, and ONLY works badly/not at all in Moz/NS6, then
>> I'm thinking that Moz/NS6 is NOT the only properly written app...it IS the
>> only one writing its own interface system...hmmm...
>> 
>> john
> 
> That's to misunderstand the nature of beast.  mozilla still uses the
> underlying window O/S and all of the messaging, mozilla is not a
> replacement windowing system, its an XP overlay.

Be that as it may, It's duplicating window display code on every OS, as
evidenced on at least the MacOS by it's refusal to acknowledge Appearance
Manager settings. Wonder how many of the three years of development leading
up to the current state of affairs was wasted on XUL and skins. Might have
been nice had this effort been directed towards towards coding of basic
functions, fixing the screamingly obvious bugs in those areas, and then
dealing with niceties like skins.

And as far as the sometimes - voice threat of "without XUL, it would have
been windows - only"...riiiggght. Suuuuuure. Netscape is stupid enough to
ignore the platforms where they still have customers and a market share that
isn't a joke.

But then again, since Netscape isn't my only choice in any platform, that's
an empty threat anyway.

john

> 
> Simon
> 
> 
>> --
>> "In no other profession are the penalties for employing untrained personnel
>> so appalling or so irrevocable as in the military."
>> - General of the Army Douglas MacArthur
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