On 11/27/00 5:40 PM, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Gervase
Markham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> mozilla.org does not claim that it is. As Simon said, use Netscape
>>> newsgroups for bashing Netscape, please :-)
>>
>> When Netscape starts acting like they care about something besides marketing
>> points, I will more...
>
> So you are saying you are yelling at us because Netscape won't listen?
I'm yelling, complaining, bitching to Mozilla, because a) Netscape either
isn't listening, or doesn't wish to act as though they are, which is much
the same thing, and b) So far, Mozilla has been the better product, and
shows signs of things getting fixed.
>
>>> As I have said on this subject before, go away and inhale the specs for
>>> HTML4, CSS 1 and 2, the DOM, XML, RDF, IMAP, POP3, FTP, HTTP, etc. etc.
>>> When you've done that, go away and study the millions of broken web pages
>>> that people will expect Netscape 6 to get right. Then come back and
>>> re-express that disbelief :-)
>>
>> Dude...it eats RAM, it doesn't support LDAP at all,
>
> Note LDAP is not on the above list :-)
Supporting IMAP without LDAP is useless. IMAP is a standard that works best
in large-scale mail implementations, which is also where you see the most
use of LDAP. Besides, at least for most corporate use, we'll trade total w3c
web standards compliance for email and LDAP. There's a few browsers out
there that are doing well in that area. Besides, any product can announce
compliance, it's the implementation that matters and on at least 2
platforms, your implementation needs much work.
>
>> the interface is slow,
>> buggy, and interface ridden, Helper apps are broken, no secure email.
>> Standards support is immaterial until the thing is useable without needing
>> 60+ MB of RAM for IMAP and browsing.
>
> Rubbish. If it worked now but had crap standards support, we would have
> spent the last two years recoding Netscape 4.x.
At least 4.X is a *fast* IMAP client with LDAP support. NS6/Moz. Is a
crappy, (NS6) to mediocre(Moz) IMAP client with no LDAP. Guess which one
ain't getting used?
>
>>>> I despise Netscape for
>>>> blaming anyone else but themselves for the NS6 Debacle.
>>>
>>> Are they?
>>
>> They tend to put out this message of "We only use what Mozilla gives us".
>
> Where, exactly, is this message put out? I have not had this impression at
> all.
Pretend you're a corporate IS type and read the Netscape 6 FAQs and info
pages. You'd be amazed at what the marketing for NS6 is saying to different
groups.
john
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