On 11/27/00 10:12 AM, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Gervase
Markham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>> If you want to go Netscape bashing, a process slightly easier than stealing
>>> sweets from babies, I suggest you go to a netscape newsgroup to do
>>> it.  XPFE is here and will provide a lot more than simply different front
>>> ends as time goes on.
>> 
>> Don't misunderstand  *why* I'm angry/frustrated about NS6/Moz. It's not
>> because I hate Netscape. It's because the product, as is, is not at a final
>> release level of quality.
> 
> mozilla.org does not claim that it is. As Simon said, use Netscape
> newsgroups for bashing Netscape, please :-)

When Netscape starts acting like they care about something besides marketing
points, I will more...and I am yelling at them too. For all it's faults, at
least Mozilla shows signs of caring about all customers, not just AOL's.
That's important

> 
>> years, the people at Netscape and the OS community couldn't come up with a
>> web browser/email client that is reasonably free of bugs?
> 
> As I have said on this subject before, go away and inhale the specs for
> HTML4, CSS 1 and 2, the DOM, XML, RDF, IMAP, POP3, FTP, HTTP, etc. etc.
> When you've done that, go away and study the millions of broken web pages
> that people will expect Netscape 6 to get right. Then come back and
> re-express that disbelief :-)

Dude...it eats RAM, it doesn't support LDAP at all, the interface is slow,
buggy, and interface ridden, Helper apps are broken, no secure email.
Standards support is immaterial until the thing is useable without needing
60+ MB of RAM for IMAP and browsing.

> 
>> Which is crap. Mozilla should not be carrying the load for Netscape. AOL has
>> the money, they can by god hire some damn coders.
> 
> Have you read "The Mythical Man Month" by Fred Brooks? And anyway,
> Netscape is hiring as far as I know. Looking for a job?

I thought about it, but AOL is Dilbert land big time, and I may not be
getting as much money at AER as I could at AOL, but at least here,
methodical planning, and intelligent implementation carry more weight than
marketing satisfaction.

> 
>> I despise Netscape for
>> blaming anyone else but themselves for the NS6 Debacle.
> 
> Are they?

They tend to put out this message of "We only use what Mozilla gives us".
Using Mozilla where it's better is good. Doing nothing outside of what
Mozilla gives them is dumb.

john

-- 
No man is fit to command another that cannot command himself.
- William Penn 


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