Peter Lairo wrote:
>
> RV wrote:
> > Peter Lairo wrote:
> >
> >> OK, for all the pedantic, anal retentive people who would rather
> >> obscure the issue and ridicule those who are trying to improve the
> >> system:
> >>
> >> PPPS. Insults are the arguments of those who have no arguments. (J.J.
> >> Rousseau, schw.-frz. Phil., 1712-1778)
> >
> >
> > OMG, after all the criticism and harsh word you had for JTKs behavior in
> > these newsgroups a few weeks back, you are behaving just like him. I
> > find interesting that you cite Rousseau when you have been insulting
> > people here calling them ignorants, pedantic, anal, stubborn, crazy,,
> > etc, etc.
>
> OMG??? Are you a valley girl? ;)
>
> There is a big difference between being direct and firm with someone who
> is *deliberately disrupting* a group (JTK, in case you are wondering),
> and being genuinely upset (and expressing it in an emotional way) when
> people deliberately "obscure the issue and ridicule *those who are
> trying to improve the system*".
>
> JTK deserved the harsh treatment - he was here to disrupt.
>
> I deserve more respect - I am trying to improve things. I definetely do
> not deserve to have my ideas ignored and brushed aside with irrelevant
> and arrogant responses.
First and foremost, perspective is king! ;-)
Perhaps JTK thinks that his tactics are a way to improve things (perhaps
not, but you would have to admit that certain kinds of dementia can
provide this kind of thinking). You don't think he was. Therefore he
deserves harsh treatment.
You think that you are trying to improve things. Therefore you deserve
respect. Perspective.
In my *opinion* (please note that last word), you already had the
respect you wanted. Your idea was considered, discussed, and eventually
it was decided that your idea wouldn't be implemented at this time.
Again, IMO, you've now moved beyond the point of being helpful to being
disruptive. You've asked for your idea to be considered. It was. You
didn't like the answer, which is natural, and in response, you've
started calling people names and become disruptive. That'll just damage
your credibility down the road should you propose something else.
You've already said you aren't a programmer. Well then, what kind of
interface design experience do you have? Have you been involved in any
usability studies? Do you have any training in Project Management?
This argument reminds me of a guy who knows nothing about cars that
takes a car to a mechanic, tells the mechanic what's wrong with the car
and how to fix it, then argues when the mechanic says that he's wrong.
Justin H.
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"I don't know all the certain words to word it."
-Vanilla Ice on why his autobiography had a ghostwriter
