On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 00:55:58 -0600, Brian Heinrich
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:59:22 -0500, it is alleged that "R.Danner III"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> swaggered in to
>netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news and announced:
>
>>David Simpson wrote:
[snip]
>>
>>     Respectfully disagree, David. There are many reasons why the user-support 
>>groups are on the secure server, one of the primary ones being this: Many (far 
>>too many) users have NO CLUE that they need to spoof their addresses for UseNet 
>>(which I suppose should be renamed "SpambotNet" due to spambot harvesting of 
>>unsuspecting users' e-mail addresses.) and the secnews groups are 100% safe from 
>>that /because/ they are not echoed out to the Usenet.
>
>Yep.
>
While I agree with this theory I had to learn the hard way. I learnt
quickly. My SPAM mail is down to only a few a day from over twenty at
one stage and I'm probably posting ten times the number of messages.

>>     I agree, however, that if all endusers are scared away from Mozilla, the 
>>project might as well shut down, and that'd be a shame, particularly after the 
>>glowing reviews in major magazines that I've seen since 1.0 went public. I think 
>>the solution would be to have Mozilla's SSL active by default, with the 
>>secnews.netscape.com groups ALREADY subscribed... but that's my humble opinion.
>
>I don't know what it's like on a clean install now, but time was when you
>subscribed to NGs in Moz, you were taken directly to the n.p.m.* hierarchy; that
>might explain part of the current state of affairs in these groups.
>
>BTW, the end-user support question is currently being debated in n.p.m.d11n;
>feel free to contribute. . . .
>
Thanks. I'll take a lurk. ... On looking at my list of groups, that
group is unavailable on my local server so maybe not.

I consider that the latest post is a big improvement on previous
attempts to redirect the end-users. Congratulations to Christopher
Jahn. Politeness will win many more friends.


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