Doug Ludy wrote:

> life-enhancing rather that life-threatening?  This is a very old
> dilemma.  I sincerely hope this discussion continues, for trust is
> important to me.

But how can you trust a process going on behind closed door and
excluding everyone else?

Further more how can you trust it when commercial interests involved are
usually only involved for the sole purpose of profiteering (which I have
nothing against I might add), but when it comes to internet standards
Microsoft and other companies have already shown their hands trying to
stifle competition by locking new players out of the markets, why would
these companies be any different...

A classic example of what I'm talking about is the debacle with
SPF/Sender ID, MS came into the game a johnny come latelys and tried to
control the entire situation through patenting their "innovation", fact
of the matter is time and time again these closed talks only lead to the
opposite where as open talks tend to lead to a much better outcome for
the entire internet so it's not at all surprising these companies want
to keep everything hushed until the last minute when they can lock
everyone into it.

What does surprise me is the mozilla guys falling for this kind of
tactic especially given their background, it's completely laudable and
against the whole principal that the mozilla foundation is supposedly
based on.

In the end it will be them who suffers after commercial interests have
raped their users for all they think worth while and then ditch them in
the proverbial gutter to clean up the mess.

Closed talks lead to close standards if not patented ones that only
serve to do the entire internet a dis-service.

Further more another example of what I'm talking about was with Comodo
trying to lock trust bar into their patents, for US businesses this
seems to be business as usual, the only thing surprising me is the
Mozilla guys falling hook line and sinker for it... No wonder Gerv
didn't want blogs and/or slashdot postings about it, it would blow the
lid of the entire thing at how Mozilla is selling out it's user base to
the same vested commercial interests it's supposed to be an alternative for!

-- 

Best regards,
 Duane

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