Hello Robert,
Tuesday, June 27, 2000, 5:49:38 PM, you wrote:
RH> Hi Roel!
>> I tested -Z, was very happy with it, and it became default for some
>> builds.
RH> Takehiro's scalefac_scale feature (-Z, it was not another new VBR mode)
RH> had to be turned off for VBR, because the VBR modes already created a too large
RH> variation of the scalefactors.
In somewhat layman terms, what do you mean by this? 3.84Z was much
more like it's predecessors than the newer alpha's? You've always
been unhappy with it?
RH> Together with that feature it got even worse and
RH> we would have to rescale the quality settings to compensate distortions
RH> introduced by it. We did not drop it, it's only not the default.
RH> If you like it back, you will have to add -Z at the command line.
Hmmm, so If I understand correctly: the -V1 setting I was using uptil
3.84a-Z will be something like -V3 now? What's the angle on this?
It's just that I thought lame converged to some point, and now all is
off-scale.
It's just that the 3.84 has come a long way since 3.83. 3.83 gives
too large files, compared to older versions, and I'd like there to be
a 3.84beta with -Z defaulted.
This way you can revise the vbr scale's with the new MT mode in a 3.85
version, and I have an easier time explaining to the users that visit
my site that 3.84 is not 3.84, and 3.83 is not good enough, but 3.84
isn't the same it used to be, ...
It's open source, and you have no obligation to the users, but just
for the sake of clarity, it would be nice to get a version 3.84b
producing files sizelike 3.7,3.80,3.81 and with the Q improvements of
3.83.
Lame already has a big user base, and my guess is that it would make a
much better impression if -V1 in 3.8x was still -V1 in 3.8(x+1).
I understand the meaning of an alpha version, and understand it's
unwise for end-users to be using the newer alpha builds, but since
there hasn't been a beta in some time now...
But anyways, I'll try my best to find some more bugs in the newer
alpha's, so that there will be clarity soon. :) (btw, is that min
bitrate bug already fixed? (-B128 doesn't work)
RH> If you really want the old behaviour you would only have to replace
RH> -v with --vbr-old -Z.
RH> From my point of view it was time to make Mark's VBR mode the default,
RH> because we need more feedback to find possible bugs (Thanks to Mathew,
RH> who immediately found a showstopper ;)
It would have been nice to release 3.84b first, because now I have to
make some (unnecessary imho) major adjustments to my site, in order to
get this explained to the layman lame user.
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Best regards,
Roel mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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