David asked that this thread get back to being Minneapolis specific.  I
guess I would like to hear what the school board candidates to talk about
how the Minneapolis Public Schools should address these issues.  Teen
pregnancy prevention is certainly an issue in the Minneapolis Public
Schools.  So is violence and rape prevention.  In this vein, I would like
to hear from the school board candidates how they feel about this -- and
what the role of the schools should be in this area.    

At 12:17 PM 10/22/01 -0500, W. Brandon Lacy Campos wrote:
>Posts like the one below concern me, especially coming from a woman. 

Do you mean because I happen to be female, I should think a certain way?  

>All
>young women and all young men should be taught that no means no. NO never
>means maybe, kinda, sorta, uh-huh. If a person things he or she are
>receiving mixed messages, then the person needs to explain, in detail, why
>he or she thinks that the other person is communicating something other than
>no. If the person continues to say no, then NO means NO. Soap operas are not
>real life. Gone with the Wind is not real life.
Soaps and Gone with the Wind are not real life -- but they model glamorous
and exciting people.  However there are a lot of mixed messages that happen
about sexuality in real life.  And what about the example Robert Schmid
gave regarding a woman who is a victim of domestic violence denying it and
asking that no charges be filed? 

The lessons from the media also teach women that the way to get power,
attention and recognition is through their sexuality and looks.  When I was
in high school, I used to try to do more poorly on tests -- because I did
not want to stand out being a "brain".  

Both men AND women have the responsibility to give clear messages.  In
reality, they don't always do so.  

Boys have a responsibility to accept -- no means no -- even though the
non-verbal messages are different.  Girls have a responsibility to send
clear messages (and not model their behavior on soap opera actresses).  The
point is, it's important to try to prevent date rape from occuring in the
first place.  Teaching girls to take responsiblity and be clear -- can help
prevent the situation from occuring.  Will it prevent all situations?  No.  

Parents have a responsibility to talk to their teenagers about this sort of
thing.  Schools have a responsibility to talk about these issues also.
Looking at these issues with an either/or framework -- just doesn't work.  

So I agree with Robert Schmid's point here -- to Patrick Peterson:  

So, yes, if the focus of your campaign is to worry about language, then no
you won't have my support.  If your concern is to insure that the language
of YESTERDAY is not lost as it evolves into the language of tomorrow, then
that is a valid concern of the language department.
If your concern is to reduce or eliminate violence in schools, then of
course you have my support - but not if your plan is tell everyone that
"no means no."

EY:  

I'd also be interested in what School Board candidates think of "zero
tolerance" policies.  

RT and the MPR Debate:  

On the subject of unclear messages during the debates -- I think that
infamous MPR debate, where Lisa McDonald was offended by what she perceived
to be RT Rybak's disrespect for her hearing disability is another example
of non-verbal and verbal cues.  Both Mark Stenglein and Sharon Sayles
Belton routinely would write down questions for Lisa -- to make sure she
heard them.  I'm sure RT Rybak didn't intentionally try to use Lisa's
hearing disability against her -- however, I'm also sure that Lisa was
offended by RT's behavior.  I also think that if it were me, I would have
approached RT directly -- rather than through the media -- to tell him what
I thought about that.  

Did RT Rybak miss some of Lisa McDonald's non-verbal cues -- possibly.  I
wasn't there.  I was offended about this when I heard Lisa McDonald's story
on it (the day after the debate)-- but I had not heard the debate itself.
However, I also wrote RT Rybak directly about this issue -- and got an
answer.  

Is this going to affect my vote for Mayor?  No.  It seems to be an example
of poor communication between two individuals.  

Eva
Eva Young
Central


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