At 11:10 AM 8/29/02 -0700, Dave Piehl wrote:
>Dave Jenson says:
>
>"The Access Project is about moving more cars BETTER.
>Where should traffic be?  Where should it not be?"
>
>Ken Avidor responded: 
>When the debate is narrowed to to so few options,the
>answer is always pour more asphalt and
>concrete....preferably in another neighborhood.  
>
>David Piehl adds:
>
>Bingo!  People always seem to want it in another
>neighborhood.
>
>And,as someone pointed out off-list, Jensen may
>believe that as a homeowner on Park Avenue, traffic on
>his street will decrease if I35W can accomodate
>increased levels of traffic.  Personally, I believe
>any decrease on nearby streets will be temporary at
>best, if there is a decrease at all.  Dave Jensen, pls
>advise the list as to if and how this may or may not
>affect your position so that people won't need to
>speculate.
>
I have heard that argument for years.  I've lived on Park Ave for years
also.  Park is a one way street and is a major street.  That's part of the
breaks living on that street, that it is a heavy traffic street.  

When I lived on Park, I would regularly use Portland and Park to go to
Richfield (rather than 35W).  That was more a personal choice.  I'll use
freeways when I have to, but prefer the drive through city streets.  

My personal take on widening 35W is this -- I would not want to see 35W
become a better route for getting around the city than the beltway (694 and
494).  I would like to see traffic strategies that encourage car and truck
traffic that is bypassing the city, to bypass the city by going around
(using the beltway) rather than going through.  Congestion is very high on
the beltway system now, and widening 35W would draw more of that traffic
onto 35W.  

There isn't more land in the city available for more freeways.  So it's not
really a question of building ourselves out of congestion.  We need to look
at ways to move people smarter.  That means less of these idiotic street
baracades (as they have between 31st and Lake on 10th and Elliot, and on
1st Avenue).  It means that everyone who lives in the city has to have
their fair share of traffic.  


Eva
Eva Young
Near North
Minneapolis

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freedom, and that means freedom for everyone - not just you! You may leave
the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc., but the
world is full of idiots, and probably always will be." --Article II of the
Bill of Non-Rights.
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