At 04:29 PM 09/07/2002 -0500, Barbara L. Nelson wrote:
>What the voters said was that they didn't want the city to spend more than
>$10 million on getting a new stadium.  That's not the same as not wanting a
>stadium built in Minneapolis, if a stadium is going to be built somewhere.
>As RT said last night, (paraphrasing) it will be millions less expensive to
>build a stadium in Minneapolis because other sites will have infrastructure
>costs, and in Minneapolis the infrastructure is already in place.  If a
>stadium bill passes, all things being equal, wouldn't we rather have the
>spending and the jobs in Minneapolis?  Moreover, don't we want to be
>conservative with the public purse?
True, that was the wording of the referendum.  However, I don't think that
meant the voters said "spend 10 million on getting a new stadium."  

Why shouldn't people who want a stadium be calling business leaders -- not
legislators to get it built?  Lobbying business leaders can also be
effective.  Talk to friends of yours who have connections to the decision
makers in business and to the venture capitalists.   

>I'd like to set whether or not a stadium SHOULD be built aside, I think the
>list has debated that ad nauseum.  (capital letters not meant to shout, just
>for clarity)  We know there will be a push to build a stadium in Minneapolis,
>RT said so last night.  We also know that the leader of the effort will be
>Opat, of Hennepin County, not RT.
What peeves me off, is why the government is the funder/bank of first
resort.  What the teams want is a stadium with more luxary boxes -- which
none of the general public will be able to enjoy.  Then businesses will use
these luxary boxes to wine and dine their big clients.  And some of those
expenses get written off as business expenses, so the taxpayers don't
recoup that money in taxes.  The debate has not been about if there should
be a stadium built in Minneapolis.  The debate on this list has been
whether taxpayers should be put at risk (financing) or whether taxes should
increase (funding).  It's been pretty clear that most posters on this list,
who post on the subject oppose government financing and funding of a
stadium.  

The Guthrie as I understand it doesn't have luxary boxes.  Neither does the
proposed planetarium.  That planetarium will be heavily utilized by schools
in the area which benefits children.  That is also more something that is
part of the role of government.  

>What I'm interested in knowing is whether or not there is any activity going
>on right now either with legislators or municipalities in Hennepin County to
>lay the groundwork to get the stadium built in Minneapolis.  And, if so,
>what?
>
>I don't think it's too early.  Those of us who want the stadium to be built
>in Minneapolis should be contacting our legislators right now.

Again, what's stopping people from lobbying the business community.  They
are the ones who should step up to the plate.  

Barbara, I'd be glad to work with you on this, if you want to work on
getting business leaders to step up to the plate.  Are there others on this
list who are interested in that.  


Eva
Eva Young
Near North
Minneapolis

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