> Much of Margo's support was the Northeast traditional white > ethnic union DFL base. Don Samuel's union bashing will drive these > folks straight to Olin.
Ok, Dyna,watching the tenor and tone of your posts on this has moved me from being relatively ambivolent to annoyed to downright angry. Dyna, When did Samuels bash the unions? Provide evidence. Going to a small local print shop that has not unionized is NOT union bashing. If you do have some actual example of bashing, the rest of this email does not apply. A month ago, I'd never heard of Don Samuels or Olin Moore so for all I know they could spend every Tuesday morning lobbing rotten eggs at picket lines, but unless you give actual evidence, I've got to assume you're basing everything on the the use of a non-union print shop. If the shop has worked to keep their workers from organizing and Samuels has knowlege of it, then you have a point, but you've provided no evidence and someone from Samuels' campaign suggested something to the contrary (something about job responsibilities not really fitting union designations). If they've crossed a picket line to do a job, then they are scabs. If it is simply a matter of the workers at the place not deciding to join the union (which does NOT mean they have not organized), then they are NOT scabs. The only claims of union bashing I have heard came from you. Unfortunately, propaganda works - if you're spreading a LIE (and at this point, that's how it looks to me), some people will fall for it. If people go to Olin because they think Don, is a union basher, it will apparently be because of lies and propaganda. Lies and propaganda are poison to democracy. Democracy relies on people being able to make an informed educated decision and when you deceive, you are making that impossible. So, do you have anything or are you spreading lies and propaganda? If you do not have anything to back your statements, you should apologize for your deception and move on to talking about why your preferred candidate would actually be good for the ward. How will he be good for: * Reducing crime and increasing quality of life * Improving relationships between the police and the community, especially when it comes to preceptions of racism and brutality. * Balancing the previous two questions * Balancing the city's budget in terms of the current deficit and upcoming cuts from the state and fed * Deal with problems of homelessness and joblessness * Deal with corporate welfare and making sure those who have already received handouts live up to their ends of the bargains. * Making sure living wage work is available. etc., etc., etc. . . . Full Disclosure: I won't be in the ward until after redistricting so while I can't vote, I do have a vested interest. My preferred candidate has already been eliminated. I think North needs more attention than Northeast right now, so while I feel that a city wide focus is mandatory, I lean towards a candidate who is more focused on N than NE, however, they still must be an advocate for my side of the river as well. More Full Disclosure: I support organized labor, but I am torn when it comes to some of the unions. Interestingly, a steward I spoke with a couple months ago seemed to share these perceptions: Unions as a organizing tool for labor is a good thing. Unions as another hierarchy of bullies controlling labor is a bad thing. - Jason Goray, Sheridan, NE. . . . Massacre of 1913 (based on a true story, by Woody Guthrie) Let me take you back to 1913 To Calumet, Michigan in the copper country I'll take you to a place called Italian Hall Where the miners are having their big Christmas ball I'll take you through a door and up a high stairs Singing and dancing is heard everywhere Befoe you know it you're friends with us all And you're dancing and dancing around in the hall You ask about work and you ask about pay They'll tell you they make less than a dollar a day Working their copper claims, risking their lives So it's fun to spend Christmas with children and wives A little girl sits down by the Christmas tree lights To play the piano, so you gotta keep quiet To hear all this fun you would not realize That the copper boss thug men are milling outside The copper boss thugs stick their heads in the door One of them screams and he yells, "there's a fire" A lady she hollers, "there's no such a thing "Keep on with your party, there's no such a thing" Then some people rush, but it's only a few "It's just the thugs and the scabs fooling you" A man grabbed his daughter and he carried her down But the thugs held the door and he could not get out Then others rushed, a hundred or more But most everybody remained on the floor The gun thugs they laughed at their murderous joke And the children were smothered on the stairs by the smoke Such a terrible sight I never did see We carried our children back up to their tree The scabs outside still laughed at their spree And the children that died there was seventy-three The piano played a slow funeral tune And the night was lit up by a cold Christmas moon The parents they cried and the miners they moaned See what your greed for money has done . . . (Check out David Rovics' "Pay Day at Coal Creek" album - lyrics are at : http://members.aol.com/drovics/linerp.htm) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _______________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
