It is not racist to describe someone using their color as an adjective - any
more than it is sexist to use their gender to describe someone!

jim bernstein
Fulton

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>From: Shawne FitzGerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism
>Date: Fri, Aug 8, 2003, 11:21 PM
>

> Most of the time I am a lurker on this list.  Often though, I've wanted to
> point out to all sides that the discussion
> here only reflects the institutional racism that we live with in the US.
>
> Our US definitions of race, besides confusing ethnicity and ancestral
> geography, are fallacy.  Look to science, look
> to biology.  There is really only one race:  human.
>
> I understand how ludicrous our racist system is for I have given birth to
> two children who are not considered my
> race.  Nor are they considered their father's race.  Sometimes they are
> "Other," on the street they are "mixed,"
> sometimes they are "part" and in my son's case, his official "race" was
> changed a couple of times by the federal
> government before he was 20 years old!
>
> Yet, "race" as we call it in the US, is a genetic characteristic.  A child
> must certainly inherit race from a
> birthmother . . . and a birthfather.  It's the only way we get "race."  Of
> course, my children inherited their "race"
> from their parents and logically, that would make their parents the same
> race as their children.  Only in the US,
> with its illogical racism, this is not so!
>
> Go figure.
>
> Ethnicity is another matter entirely.  I have French/Irish-American cousins
> while I am mostly Irish.  My cousins and
> I were never considered a separate race (but both the voyageurs and the
> Irish were called a 'different' race in the
> 18th century).   My son is Irish/African/Panamanian - he can't help but to
> reflect a bit of these cultures but
> mostly, he is an American from the Midwest.  My daughter is
> Irish/African/Finnish.  And our extended family is so
> blended there are too many ethnicities and religions and political
> affiliations to list!  We are proud of all the
> rich cultures in our family.
>
> First and foremost, my children are themselves - unique individuals . . .
> as we all are.
>
> ***I challenge everyone on this list to spend one week trying to purge our
> institutional racism from your lives.***
>
> You no longer get to identify yourself as black, white, native american,
> asian, hispanic, mixed, whatever.  Not even
> on forms.  And ponder who you are if you can't use this label to describe
yourself.
>
> Ethnicity is welcome!  Regionalism is welcome!  Localism is welcome!  And
> please get the point - each individual is
> unique.
>
> I challenge you to purge our racist language from your speech patterns -
> you can't say "a black guy" or "a white
> guy," etc.  Find other words, real words to describe the person you are
describing.
>
> For one week, don't ask others to use the racist categories that we, in the
> US, take all for granted.  I imagine this
> will be impossible for the public officials and employees, elected
> officials, profit and non-profit government
> contractors, and journalists on the list. Your jobs seem to require
> reinforcing our institutional racism.  And some
> of you have the power to coerce others of us to go along with that.
>
> And finally, during this week, consider the measures we might used, not
> based on fallacious institutional racism, but
> based in reality, with assurances of dignity and privacy, to measure
> injustice, discrimination and disparity.
>
> Comments are welcome - but I urge you to take my challenge for just one
> week before doing so.
>
> I sincerely believe that we will not be able to deal with our urban
> problems and our societal problems until we get
> past our institutional racism.  Take my challenge and let us know how you make
out.
>
> Best regards,
> Shawne FitzGerald
> Powderhorn
>
>
>
> Eduardo Parra wrote:
>
>> Anyone who has been subjected to
>> racists comments, directly or indirectly are no less offended whether the
>> comments are "sustained", episodic, occasional, etc.  When it hurts, it hurts
>> and when offended, one doesn't check to see oneself to determine "well, that
>> was offensive, perhaps I should wait until it happens again to see if I'm
>> still offended".  Polite explanations explaining your inability to monitor
>> postings on this listserv while understandable, in no way make life easier
>> for those who are targets of racism.
>
> TEMPORARY REMINDER:
> 1. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait.
> 2. If you don't like what's being discussed here, don't complain - change
> the subject (Mpls-specific, of course.)
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