Jim,
I do stay out of smoky bars whenever possible. I also love our local music scene which is all too often restricted to smoky bars. Should I just exclude myself from these places because of offensive and unhealthy second hand smoke?
I also thought that the efforts to legalize hemp for agriculture was related to it's many "nonsmoking" uses.
Rick
On Wednesday, June 2, 2004, at 01:51 PM, gemgram wrote:
I have been waiting for an appeal of my "ban" from the List, before
continuing to post, but just could not resist Eddie Felien's post. I guess
when you are addicted it truly is hard to resist temptation.
Eddie should consider not putting his butt where someone is already swinging
his or her foot. I wonder if Eddie, and others so up on smoking bans in
bars, have ever thought to stop going into the bars where smoking is
allowed? I do not remember reading in the Southside Pride, or on the
Minneapolis Issues, where Eddie Felien was forcibly dragged into a bar
against his will and then made to breathe "Second Hand" smoke. Not having
read either for a while, I have maybe missed something?
Recently some friends and I went into Mac's Bar, (best deal on a steak in
town) to have a steak and a diet coke or scotch as we might choose. We
found the bar was really smoky, because it was already filled with (can I
say it in public) SMOKERS. We turned right around and left to go to a
different restaurant and bar. Amazing how easy that worked. We simply chose
to put our butts somewhere where there was not already a "foot swinging".
I was amused by the discussion of talks with Jesus and God. I am told Jesus
once instructed us that "he without sin throw the first stone". Perhaps in
this situation it might be "he without addiction, habit, or desire, throw
the first 'Ban'." I seem to remember Mr. Felien advocating for changing the
ban on cannabis farming. I also wonder how many others enjoy coffee;
sugared, or caffinated, and carbonated pop; or offensive music (rap at any
sound level is offensive to me, and may cause violent behavior in some);
etc. Such things might harm those who choose to use them, and damage others
from simply being around the users. Personally, however, I have problems
with the government banning any of these things. How would some of the ban
supporters feel if it were decreed from the 'Mount City Hall' that all
restaurant owners MUST allow smoking, since it is a legal substance? Same
powers of government and license, I would think?
So Eddie and others who do not like smoky bars, why don't you just CHOOSE to
stay the hell out of them. Let's control smoking in public spaces so Eddie
does not have to breathe it in a public place. And who ever is forcing
Eddie to breathe it, please stop! If the City owns a bar, or if one exists
in an area where you do not have to go through doors to get into it, then I
will fully support a ban in such an establishment. Let's even enforce a ban
on drinking in public places. Heck, I personally would even support a total
ban on tobacco, before I would support a ban on a legal substance and legal
activity within a privately owned establishment.
If you do not like smoking Eddie, just STOP doing it. A lot of us have done
that. And stop associating with those who do, and stop going into
businesses that allow smoking tobacco. Wow, personal freedom and choice,
what a concept! Of course some people just sometime wake up in a smoking
bar. Without any memory of how they got there! I only used that excuse
once with my wife. Did not work that time either, so I would advise against
it.
So Eddie, please stop backing into other people's feet on purpose, it takes
the shine off of someone's shoe.
Jim Graham, Minneapolis' Sixth Ward
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