>>>>> "DB" == David Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    DB> My pithy view:
    DB> The difference between 10 stories and 13 is trivial. I favor density.

    DB> Traffic/environmental is the bigger problem. Fact is, we don't have a  
    DB> reliably funded transit system to make people believe we can be  
    DB> denser without the attendant auto pollution and congestion spilling  
    DB> into neighborhoods that don't deserve it.

    DB> Sadly, it's a chicken-and-egg thing...density boosts transit, but  
    DB> without transit people can believe in, they can legitimately, IMHO,  
    DB> oppose that density that may, someday, cause transit to flourish.

    DB> I think we need to control car use somehow — with carrots, not  
    DB> sticks, hopefully — BEFORE we can ask neighbors to accept denser  
    DB> projects in areas that, despite the presence of Uptown businesses,  
    DB> are still quite residential.

If it's leverage you want, how about requiring renters in a big
development like this to commit to not having cars?  I dunno if that's
enforceable, though...


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