> > Ah. Heh, it's great to actually have direct communication with one of
the
> > VHDL coders out there, since contact with all others has to go through
other
> > people :). I just re-read the MSX print, and the part about the
cooperation
>
> I agree, and it seems that this is one of the barriers of the japanese
> people for exchanging knowledge and sw/hw developments.

I believe the Japanese guy who was in Tilburg a couple of years ago (when
Nishi was also there), Tujikawa (?), was the hardware guy from ESE. He was
quite good in English (he was even able to pronounce my name right ;p), and
I doubt he hasn't got an email address. So, in this case I think he uses
Ikeda's MSX-Print to contact the people because it has quite a wide reach
outside of Japan.


> > was even directed directly at you, Marco... hehe ^_^ didn't notice that
> > before. And hmm 500.000 yen, that would be er... over 4000 euros! whow
>
> I didn't notice that, I will read it again. Is this MSX-Print available at
> Alex Wulms' page?

Yes. It was also posted on the mailinglist on 2/8/2002.


> > that's a lot :). Oh, on a sidenote, I mentioned there being five
different
> > VHDL coders working on MSX projects, but that would actually be four,
the
> > one working on the TMS9918 was also from ESE. So there's two from
Brazil,
> > one from Spain, and one from Japan...
>
> One thing that is not clear for me is if Kunihiko is a member of ESE or
> not. And also, if the ESE FPGA project belongs to the MSX Association or
> not. Personally, I think that if the MSX Association wants to make money
> with the hardware developed by Tsujikawa, then I also want. For me it's
> not clear what is the goal of ESE.

No, it does not belong to MSX Association. It's an independant project the
MSX Association wanted to make use of. At least, as far as I know, hehehe. I
believe I got personal confirmation from er, yes, Tujikawa I believe it was.
Patriek was there, too, he should be able to confirm it... The name Kunihiko
doesn't ring a bell. But then again, I'm not very good in all those Japanese
names.


> > As for the Japanese 'attitude' Adriano mentioned, English is a difficult
> > language for the Japanese, and their culture is also quite difficult,
which
> > makes translating even harder if you want to stay close to the original
> > meaning. I think the fact that they offered to cooperate meant that they
> > *do* appreciate your skills (if they didn't, there wouldn't be a point
in
> > asking for cooperation), and I don't think it should be discarded too
fast.
>
> In fact, it is not discarded, but it is not confirmed. I am still thinking
> about it, and as I don't work alone in the FPGA projects, I can't decide
> by myself. I will ask for opinion of the other guys who helped me.

Heh, great :).


> > There also have been several occasions where Japanese people felt
severely
> > offended by contacts from the 'western' side, so it's definately not
only
> > our problem.
>
> I don't remember any of these situations, but that's not the point,
> because we don't feel offended, I don't see any problem in the japanese's
> proposal. But this doesn't imply that it is an excelent agreement.

Heh, it's just that I heard from some peepz on IRC that they heard from a
friend of a friend which had a relative (hehe) that from the Brazilian side
the Japanese approach was experienced to be a bit er, well, it wasn't
received that well and there was the thing about the 'brazilian msx revival'
;p, er, no, seriously, there's ofcourse a bit of pride involved aswell. And
also Adriano's comment on this, it just made me think I had to make a little
comment on this :). About awkward situations, I can promise you there is a
fair amount of Dutch people who have had their experiences with this, and
people who went to Japan will definately be able to confirm this :). I've
heard of it too often.


> As you said, I also prefer to talk directly to the hardware guys. The fact
> that the japanese language is too far different from the others is not an

> excuse for learning English, for example. If they were able to develop the
> best electronic products, why can't they develop communication skills?

The language alone (which is already very hard to learn) is not the only
thing which has to be learnt, there's also a huge difference in culture and
how people are addressed, and that in particular proves to be difficult for
the Japanese to master. It becomes easier if you have a lot of contact with
English-speaking people (like for example discussing on this mailinglist),
but even then...


> The pin layout (the official name is "Pin Assignment") is easy to change
> and is not informed in the VHDL code. Each FPGA model you use have
> different available pin numbers, and the user has to select them,
> according to the board layout (or schematic diagram) used by the circuit
> board where the FPGA is installed.

Thought so already...


> > the Japanese design is too different, but that they may have more room
for
> > future extensions??? In any case, I personally would prefer it both
ways,
>
> When I talk abaout Japanese design, my basis is Kunihiko's code, which I
> got from a Japanese webpage. That code is an example of a code which is
> difficult to expand.

Ah... Oh, by the way, is your code going to be 'open source', with some kind
of GPL licence attached to it or something???

Anyways, I'll just skip the rest because all I can really say about it is
ah, and oh, and wow, cool ;), but seriously, stuff like this is interesting
:). Again, I hope it works out.


~Grauw



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