me, yes ----- Original Message ----- From: J Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:33:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [MLO] Newbie Question: Does MLO have 'Areas of Focus'?
> Simply put, to answer my original question are most people using Folder to > denote "Area of Focus" ? > > J > > On Thursday, 11 December 2014 07:57:28 UTC, Andrei Bacean wrote: > > > Hi John > > > > The Effort in my example is used to group the tasks by the order in which > > they may be done. For example, the tasks with the effort MAX may be done at > > first. > > > > When all tasks with the "effort > normal" are completed, then at the top > > of my list will be STARRED tasks followed by tasks which are sorted by > > computed score. > > > > In my example, the effort may be substituted with flags. But the Effort is > > better supported by the mobile versions of MLO. > > > > Best regards > > Andrei B > > 09 Дек 2014 г. 16:00 пользователь "John Smith" <[email protected] > > <javascript:>> написал: > > > >> > >> Hi Andrei > >> > >> Interesting - thanks > >> > >> Quick question: > >> > >> How are you using the term "Effort" in this context? Is it: > >> - The total amount of mental energy to complete a task (or project)? > >> - A simple reflection the amount of psychological resistance you have > >> towards completing the task (or project)? (i.e. In effect a measure of > >> "how > >> much i dont want to do this task" ? !) > >> - To what extent does it reflect: > >> - the time required and/or > >> - the number of steps and/or > >> - sum of money that will be required to complete the task (or > >> project)? > >> > >> Many thanks > >> > >> J > >> > >> On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 7:24:25 AM UTC, Andrei Bacean wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi John > >>> > >>> Here is an example of my outline > >>> *On the first image is the outline example > >>> *On the second image - example of an Area of Focus > >>> *On the third image - example of my TODO list: > >>> (the tasks are grouped by EFFORT. and sorted by STAR + COMPUTED SCORE > >>> the tasks which MUST to be done ASAP i place into the HIGHEST URGENCY > >>> FOLDER > >>> If some task are also very important i increase its EFFORT. > >>> SOME FOLDERS in my outline have an INCREASED EFFORT too. > >>> When a task is placed in such a folder, it will be shown at the top of > >>> my TO DO list. > >>> FOLDERS WITH CUSTOM EFFORT but without TASKS are hidden from the view.) > >>> > >>> I will be very busy next 2 weeks, and may reply with big delay > >>> > >>> Best regards > >>> Andrei > >>> > >>> четверг, 4 декабря 2014 г., 15:42:42 UTC+2 пользователь John Smith > >>> написал: > >>>> > >>>> Andrei > >>>> > >>>> OK got it. They are just folders but you have changed used automatic > >>>> formatting rules to change the icon depending on something quite > >>>> clever... > >>>> like whether the folder name has an @ in it. AND whether it has any > >>>> entries > >>>> in it. > >>>> > >>>> Clever stuff. Can you tell use something about your work flow? > >>>> > >>>> e.g. Do all "things you need" to do start life as tasks which you put > >>>> into one of those folders? > >>>> And only later get turned into Projects... and if and when this happens > >>>> only then do you move them into one of your "Projects & Actions" folders > >>>> below... Something like that? > >>>> > >>>> Thanx > >>>> > >>>> J > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thursday, December 4, 2014 7:14:16 AM UTC, Andrei Bacean wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> My friend > >>>>> > >>>>> IMHO, you ask to many questions in one thread :) > >>>>> > >>>>> I will reply to the question about the icons. > >>>>> See attached image. The answer is there. > >>>>> > >>>>> Best regards > >>>>> Andrew > >>>>> > >>>>> среда, 3 декабря 2014 г., 23:39:16 UTC+2 пользователь John Smith > >>>>> написал: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Andrei > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have now had a very good look at MLO and I can not for the life of > >>>>>> me work out how you generated that image(!). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Is that done through the standard "All tasks" view? What are those > >>>>>> icons that look like baskets and why are two of them red? I am using > >>>>>> Windows 7 (x64) and I can not find anything similar in any view that I > >>>>>> have > >>>>>> been able to create in any of my views. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I don't think I understand what you mean by "TREE". Is it the > >>>>>> structure of Folders that I would see for example in the standard "All > >>>>>> tasks" view? My problem is that if I build a Tree structure using > >>>>>> directories to reflect the GTD Areas of Focus, then it seems to me > >>>>>> that > >>>>>> this will interfere with using 'drag and drop' to manually change the > >>>>>> sort > >>>>>> order in on order to put the more important stuff at the top of the > >>>>>> page. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yv0pRQ4OrfE/VH9772QXQHI/AAAAAAAAAME/jCGeH6--XDg/s1600/delme_MLO_01.gif> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But looking more closely at your screenshot, you have got one row to > >>>>>> appear for each of your (what I assume to be) Context tags. How did > >>>>>> you > >>>>>> create that? Is each row something you created manually or is it some > >>>>>> clever View that I have not found yet? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have also spent quite a lot of time reading and trying to > >>>>>> understand David Allens GTD method. And I am still not clear what the > >>>>>> best > >>>>>> way would be to implement things to allow me to quickly filter my view > >>>>>> to > >>>>>> just focus on any one of the Contexts. (e.g. Should I set up an entire > >>>>>> View > >>>>>> and/or tab/Workspace for each Context?) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Likewise in GTD you have "Someday-Maybe" and "Delegation/Waiting-For" > >>>>>> lists. Is the best way to do this to manually move each task/project > >>>>>> into a > >>>>>> specially named folder at (say) the bottom of my screen (called > >>>>>> something > >>>>>> like "Someday-Maybe") and to make sure that the folder has "hide > >>>>>> branch in > >>>>>> To-Do" ticked, so as to stop it from appearing in the "To-do" views? > >>>>>> Are > >>>>>> there any other options? > >>>>>> Because moving things is a slightly painful thing to do. And yes, > >>>>>> even if you use F3 to help you - it's certainly a lot more than just a > >>>>>> few > >>>>>> keystrokes. Is there no other/faster way to get something out of the > >>>>>> way > >>>>>> and stop appearing on the To-do lists? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> And what about using Context tags? For example I see you have > >>>>>> something called @WaitingFor. Is that a folder with that name or a > >>>>>> Context > >>>>>> tag? Is it both? If both why do you bother having the Context tag at > >>>>>> all... > >>>>>> given that moving the item into that folder would presumably stop the > >>>>>> item > >>>>>> from appearing on the To-do list? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Also I notice you have folders called "Work Actions" and "Home > >>>>>> Actions" and then another pair of folders called "Work Projects and > >>>>>> Actions" and "Home Projects and Actions". Where then do you actually > >>>>>> keep > >>>>>> your GTD Projects? I mean are you physically separating an Actions > >>>>>> from the > >>>>>> Project that it belongs to. Or do you keep Actions that have no > >>>>>> project > >>>>>> associated with them in a completely different place from Actions that > >>>>>> are > >>>>>> part of Projects. If so what is the benefit of doing this? And either > >>>>>> way > >>>>>> roughly how many of each one do you have at any one time... and if > >>>>>> that's a > >>>>>> fairly large number (e.g. over say 10) how do you decide which to > >>>>>> next? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> With thanks > >>>>>> > >>>>>> J > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:35:11 AM UTC, Andrei Bacean wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi John > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The hardest thing, imho, is to create a simple, easy to understand, > >>>>>>> TREE. Yes, I say TREE. > >>>>>>> The TREE is the base of your GTD system. But views, tabs, contexts > >>>>>>> are instruments which u use to obtain more benefits from the tree. > >>>>>>> The TREE has to be simple, intuitive and easy to view. You dont have > >>>>>>> to feel any discomfort when you look at it. > >>>>>>> If instead you think that the tree is complicated then you may STOP > >>>>>>> at this moment, don't play with views, tabs and so on. GO BACK to the > >>>>>>> tree > >>>>>>> and try to simplify it, reorganize it. If you think that you achieved > >>>>>>> what > >>>>>>> you want, and the tree is perfect, then leave it for 1 day. Look at > >>>>>>> it > >>>>>>> again the next day in the morning, then in the afternoon and also in > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> evening. Do you think it's also perfect as before?? > >>>>>>> If yes, then slowly, step by step play with Tabs, Views, Contexts > >>>>>>> but remember to not make significant changes to the tree in a hurry. > >>>>>>> To create a system that works for you is a hard thing. That's why > >>>>>>> don't hurry, but step by step try to improve your tree, and when you > >>>>>>> think > >>>>>>> that it's perfect, only then, play with views and tabs. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ps > >>>>>>> The Tree may be customized using different fonts for top parrent, > >>>>>>> using diffenent colors for urgent tasks, using icons instead of > >>>>>>> classic > >>>>>>> folders example > >>>>>>> http://kraevoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/autoformat_ > >>>>>>> 2014_06_26_08.jpg > >>>>>>> use CAPITALIZATION for top folders instead of normal text and so > >>>>>>> on... > >>>>>>> But at the base of any tree is the information and not the > >>>>>>> formatting. > >>>>>>> So, try to search in this group for examples of use, to see more > >>>>>>> examples of trees. Also play with templates offered by MLO > >>>>>>> Application(menu > >>>>>>> file/new and then choose a template). Browse also the mlo blog, > >>>>>>> Andrei (the > >>>>>>> developer) posted a topic about his MLO tree. Read also more > >>>>>>> carefully the > >>>>>>> MLO help file (press F1). > >>>>>>> I wish you to not hurry but to build your perfect system step by > >>>>>>> step. > >>>>>>> Good luck > >>>>>>> Andrei B > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > >> Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mylifeorganized/HRJm9Zql4to/unsubscribe > >> . > >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > >> [email protected] <javascript:>. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > >> <javascript:>. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/9afafbf4-708a-4dde-8b0a-bd4fbba663fd%40googlegroups.com > >> > >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/9afafbf4-708a-4dde-8b0a-bd4fbba663fd%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > >> . > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mylifeorganized/HRJm9Zql4to/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/28ea639a-7503-4428-a884-6cdd2cf87a8c%40googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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