Roberto, I missed your email when you said you finished. I must confess, I
have no ability to make your work into an app, but I would love to learn
what you've done. Mind sharing still?
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017, 3:56 AM Robyn Webb <robynnw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> adding a +1 for a sync between Calendar apps (Google and/or Apple) and MLO.
> I use android and my Google Calendar is what I use to run my life.
> However, I like to use MLO for my plans, goals and things to do, including
> scheduling when I start these things and when they are due.
> Having 2 apps to do all this just doesn't work. It's inefficient and
> things get lost between the 2.
> There is a sync between MLO (desktop) and Outlook, however this comes with
> all sorts of other problems, mainly because of Outlook. I still can't get
> the Calendar sync with Google to work reliably.
> The 2 key calendar & task cloud platforms are Google and iOS. MLO already
> has a cloud sync and Outlook sync. When can we have a sync for Tasks for
> Google and iOS?
> On Monday, 3 July 2017 19:26:02 UTC+10, Damo Skees wrote:
>> I've been trying for years, but much as I love MLO, the one thing I have
>> trouble doing is scheduling my tasks.
>> I know that GTD preaches against this, and I know that many productivity
>> coaches also advise against scheduling tasks. I admit that I'm still
>> terrible at completing a task in the calendar even if I do schedule it, but
>> at least it's there, and it's a motivator.
>> There are a few things that keep failing me on MLO / GTD that scheduling
>> would help:
>> - Planning - I can't plan a series of tasks for a due date - eg. report
>> due end of week, and five subtasks across the week.
>> - Overbooking - every time I get an organisational spurt, I start
>> planning out several goals for the week - invariably I overbook myself,
>> fail to complete each day, become demoralised, and just fall further back
>> as the week progresses
>> - Reporting - If someone asks me "what are you doing on Thursday", GTD
>> (and MLO) doesn't give me visibility that I'll be really busy then, because
>> I have deliverables on Friday. There's just a collection of tasks between
>> now and then, with no depiction of how to space them out
>> - Modifying dates - Probably the reason for not scheduling tasks, is that
>> you then spend hours re-scheduling them! It's clunky in almost every to-do
>> app - manually changing a date/time without being able to see the calendar
>> underneath it. It should really be drag'n'drop.
>> What I would really like, is to be able to *have scheduled tasks appear
>> in my calendar!*
>> More than that - I would like to be able to *drag'n'drop* them around in
>> my calendar!
>> So the flow would go something like this (and in *Gqueues*, below, it
>> - I look at my calendar for the week in my native calendar application (I
>> use MacOS ical / IOS Calendar)
>> - On it, in a different colour (different Google sub-calendar, for
>> example), are some tasks I scheduled for a deliverable for end of month
>> - I check my next 2-3 days, and drag them around to better fit any new
>> - The changes are synced back to MLO, and I check in the main projects to
>> see what that does to the due dates for each
>> - I'm looking overbooked, so I postpone an internal project to next week,
>> and advise my boss
>> - As the day goes on, I drag, extend, etc. these scheduled tasks in ical
>> or calendar as things change
>> - As always, if my boss asks me for the forecast on a project, I can look
>> at the project view and see all the dates as I currently have them
>> The trick is syncing to the native calendar app. Rather than spend huge
>> effort designing a calendar UI, interaction, etc. - why not just design an
>> API that talks to CalDAV, iCal, etc which is two-way?
>> I've found three apps that do this so far:
>> - Asana <https://asana.com/guide/help/views/calendar> - Big Heavyweight,
>> but not great in this feature. Tasks can only be given a date, not a time,
>> so they appear as 'all day'. The ICS feed to iCAL is one way, so you can
>> view tasks in a particular day, but not move them around - you have to go
>> back to Asana for that. But they do have their own calendar view, where you
>> can drag/drop.
>> - Todoist
>> - Also apparently claim to have implemented calendar view and two-way sync
>> in the calendar. I've not tested it yet. The two-way sync only works
>> with Google Calendar
>> <https://support.todoist.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003128085%5C>, for
>> others it's one-way
>> - Gqueues <https://www.gqueues.com/help/calendarIntegration> - This is
>> the one I'm currently testing. Again, it does permit native two-way sync in
>> iCal, and it's very quick as well.
>> I've been using GQueues, and the UX is as I'd like. Whether it actually
>> helps me meet deadlines, is something I'm currently testing.
>> But - MLO is so good in so many other ways. I would really like to have
>> this feature in MLO - perhaps as a checkbox on a task for 'schedule task',
>> to flag that it should sync to the calendar. MLO already has cloud sync, so
>> perhaps a calendar sync could be built as an API from it?
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