On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:40:43 -0600, M S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yea yea...  If I could I would, unfortunantly, I'm a user not a
> developer.  I only know enough to get mysel out of trouble when it
> comes to linux, not how to create trouble.  Like I said, I love myth,
> I just don't understand why this hasn't been considered a priority.  I
> know the question has been asked 1000 times, but I've never seen a
> developer take it seriously as of yet.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:00:43 -0500, sdk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:53:47 -0600, M S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > First off... this is not meant to be a flame war and let me say I LOVE
> > > both the concept of MythTV as well as it's functionality.
> > >
> > > I think the biggest thing missing from MythTV is a built in function
> > > for archiving shows to DVD.  The closest thing I've come to is
> > > MythBurn, and even for all it offers, it's still lacking some key
> > > features such as:
> > >
> > > 1) True integration
> > > 2) Lack of using cutlists (even though someone has wrote a patch to do
> > > this, it isn't fullproof)
> > > 3) Doesn't convert the mp2 audio into the DVD standard of AC3 audio
> > > 4) Only supposidly works with MPEG2 clips (pvr-x50s)
> > > 5) and more
> > >
> > > I have 176GB available for myth recordings and every day I'm having to
> > > delete a show just to continue to use myth.  I want to archive a large
> > > percentage of my movies to DVD.  Sure, people can say "run this
> > > command line, then do this, then that... then burn."  NO!  This should
> > > be an automated procedure with ease and simplicity and no commands
> > > lines.  It should be able to take a recording, use the cutlists to
> > > remove commercials, build indexes, and make interactive menus.  It
> > > should also not involve having to do somethings on one machine, then
> > > copying to finish off processing on another with the exception of
> > > possibly saving an iso that can be burned on another machine which has
> > > a burner.
> > >
> > > How come this hasn't been a priority for someone to develop an
> > > integrated plugin for myth?  I've been told other PVRs have this
> > > functionality.
> > >
> > > Anyway, again, I don't mean to sound harsh, but this one thing is
> > > severly limiting what I can do with mythtv.
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > Ok. Let us know when you have coded that functionality into myth.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
> 
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I'm guessing that's because, while it is not currently integrated into
the myth interface as such, there are a variety of ways that users can
export myth recordings to DVD-compliant format (nuvexport comes to
mind) and then burn them to DVD.  I'm positive that all of the
developers are able to do this without having to integrate it into the
myth interface so they probably don't feel that it's a very high
priority.  Remember that while other PVR's may offer this
functionality, most, if not all, of those PVR's are commercial systems
for sale to make a profit.  Myth is not such a system.  It was created
by Isaac so he could have a system that does what he wants the way he
wants it.  Other users and developers have chipped in to add features
that they would like to see added to myth.  I'd be willing to bet that
the majority of features that have been added to myth are the result
of a developer wanting that feature and creating support for it.  If
enough people want it badly enough, the feature will probably get
implemented eventually.  However, you'll either have to wait until one
of the developers decide that they need this function or you'll have
to start learning C++ and add it yourself.

Yes, it's true that there is no simple, idiot-proof method to burn
myth recordings to DVD, but the fact is that it is entirely possible
to do this with a little effort on your part.  You're basically saying
that some of the developers should stop working on the features
they're working on (like bug fixes, support for some of the newer HDTV
cards, newer hauppauge cards, updated mythmusic interface, etc) and
work on the feature you want.  The way myth works is this:  if you
want it, code it.  If you're not willing to code it then wait until
someone else is.  You're certainly not out of line in letting folks
know that this is a feature you'd like, but the tone of your email
seemed to imply that this is a feature that is seriously degrading the
quality of myth for you.

I don't mean this to come across as rude, but as I'm sure you'll soon
hear from others, if myth doesn't do what you want it to then don't
use it.  We don't really care if you use it or not.  If you like it,
great.  If you don't, we're not going to lose any sleep over it.  So
please, either add the feature, respectfully request that it be added
to the (probably VERY LONG) list of possible future additions, or find
some other software to use.

Brad
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