Dave,
in this DEF, is the parameter correct:  sectrck 64   - or should it be 
*sectrk* 64?

Thanks,
Thomas



On Saturday, June 14, 2014 4:35:29 PM UTC-4, yoda wrote:
>
> Sorry for previous  - web posted before I was ready
>
> The diskdefs are:
>
> diskdef s100ide
>      seclen 512
>      tracks  256
>      sectrck 64
>      blocksize 2048
>      skew    0
>      boottrk 1
>
> I think the problem is the -1 but I am not sure - Track 1 sector 1 should 
> be 0x40 not 0x3F but I am not sure - tried commenting out the dec 1 but 
> that did not seem to help either.  I have included my hldrbios.asm as well
>
> Dave
>
> On Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:13:22 PM UTC-5, David Fry wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>  
>> thats right on a 64 sector border, this may be where my -1 or +1 sector 
>> correction may be wrong.
>>  
>> regards
>>  
>> David Fry
>> On Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:00:09 PM UTC+1, yoda wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David 
>>>
>>> Sounds like a plan.  I have made one and when it boots with debug 
>>> CPMLDR.COM reads LBA 3F and 40 then stops - that is where I am at.  Let 
>>> me dig up an image and  I will post here for you to look - at - think it is 
>>> pretty close
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 14, 2014 1:48:33 PM UTC-5, David Fry wrote: 
>>>>
>>>>  Hi Dave,
>>>>  
>>>> If we can get the 'No holes' CF card layout to be compliant with 
>>>> cpmtool then that has to be the way to go as it will make life much easier.
>>>> As I said in a previous post, I welcome this 'no holes' lba to be 
>>>> picked apart to get it right before we go too far down the road and find 
>>>> problems later.
>>>>  
>>>> I'm a little busy at the moment with various other aspects of my S100 
>>>> system with the little time I have to spend on it,(summer is coming after 
>>>> all :-) )
>>>> If you can knock together a quick image with a CPMLDR.COM and CPM3.SYS 
>>>> (doesnt matter what system it's for) then we could take a look to see how 
>>>> the layout differs.
>>>> My layout was derived from where CPMLDR was looking to find data.
>>>>  
>>>> regards
>>>>  
>>>> David Fry
>>>> On Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:30:00 PM UTC+1, yoda wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> why not take a look at the cpmtools set.  It has a program called 
>>>>> mkfs.cpm that will make a file as a cpm filesystem.  You can specify a 
>>>>> boot 
>>>>> image which it will lay down in the boot sectors.  You can then use cpmcp 
>>>>> to copy files to the cpm filesystem.  Then you can take the file and 
>>>>> write 
>>>>> it block by block to the CF card.  I did this originally to get my system 
>>>>> up and running.  I actually used dd (a utility on linux or Mac) to write 
>>>>> it 
>>>>> to the CF.  I actually wrote a little script to take the file image and 
>>>>> add 
>>>>> the "holes" back in so it would work with your BIOS.  I went back and 
>>>>> tried 
>>>>> it with the no hole version and had some difficulties that I have not 
>>>>> straightened out yet.  I don't know if I did something wrong or David 
>>>>> Fry's 
>>>>> LBA routine is not doing what I thought it did.  I have not gone back and 
>>>>> investigated yet but with David's help we can probably probably get this 
>>>>> resolved.  The procedure  would go like this: 
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) mkfs.cpm -f s100ide -b dummy.file -b CPMLDR.COM s100.dsk
>>>>>
>>>>> where s100ide is an entry in diskdefs that specifies the geometry of 
>>>>> the drive
>>>>> dummy.file is a 512 byte empty file to get CPMLDR.COM to be in the 
>>>>> correct sector start.
>>>>> s100.dsk is the file that represent the disk image.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) cpmcp -f s100ide s100.dsk CPM3.SYS 0:
>>>>>     cpmcp -f s100ide s100.dsk <cpm file> 0:     copies <cpm file> to 
>>>>> user area 0 on disk image
>>>>>     continue until you have all the files you want on the disk
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) use a disk image write tool (dd on Linux or Mac) to write s100.dsk 
>>>>> to CF card
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a link to the cpmtools:  
>>>>> http://www.moria.de/~michael/cpmtools/   These tools run on Windoze 
>>>>> for those that use that OS and easily compiled for Mac or Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the way I am building my images for CP/M 68K that I am 
>>>>> currently working on.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think getting the diskdefs set write and a good writeLBA routine and 
>>>>> we should be able to get the procedure down.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:31:49 AM UTC-5, monahanz wrote: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Guys, it’s great to see all the progress and uptake this simple 
>>>>>> little IDE board has generated.  Thomas in particular 
>>>>>> congratulations on putting so much time and effort into “hammering into 
>>>>>> shape” the process for first time installs.  It helps tremendously 
>>>>>> but I think it will still be difficult for some people to do.   We 
>>>>>> all should remember how it was when we first started!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m wondering if somebody out there could spend the time writing a 
>>>>>> PC/MSDOS based program to setup a CF card for first time users.  If 
>>>>>> we agree the IDE board ports start at 30H, the only variable would be 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> console I/O.  This could be either spliced into the final disk image 
>>>>>> with the above program (leaving room in the base code with NOP’s) or by 
>>>>>> answering a Q&A session and inserting code like the old XMODEM programs 
>>>>>> did.  
>>>>>> A CF card is laid down as Dave describes and is checked out. Once the 
>>>>>> image is laid down it can be dumped sector for sector any  CF card 
>>>>>> (no holes of course).  The image can even include a few CPM programs.  
>>>>>> Probably best to start with a non-banked CPM3 image.  This program 
>>>>>> would run on a standard PC, format the CF card and write the image 
>>>>>> sector 
>>>>>> by sector.  Not sure if Windows 7,8 allows you to do that easily but 
>>>>>> there must be a way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This would allow anybody not as sophisticated as some of us, to get 
>>>>>> going right away and allow them to write more elaborate CPM3.SYS files 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> include a FDC, printer etc. in the BIOS for their own hardware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think something like this would be a tremendous asset for first 
>>>>>> time S100 users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any volunteers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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