Anna and Lynnette, Anna well said about the client issue.
On the acetone issue, I have been using Eco's soak off remover for all my soak off services and I have seen much improvement over the acetone only. I did once accidentally grab my 99% alcohol and I felt so stupid, I kept telling my client " do you smell alcohol? she looked at me funny. so 6 mins later I check her nails ah major dumb moment I tell ya but get this the alcohol started to remove the shellac! ( had used a unlabeled container for my eco soak off until I ordered a small one for my table top) I use small rice warmers in my paraffin gloves to heat the product with all of the soak offs and with in 6 mins they are ready to be peeled and wiped down. I guess the filing issue is one for the client and manicurist to decide what is good for them, when I was learning to use my drill I layered polish in between acrylic and only filed off the top layer of acrylic and if I hit the red polish I needed to start over. That way I learned that a little bit of filing goes a long way. I am sure I lost one client to improper removal of the shellac. she had white spots and blamed the product I blamed myself for using a metal cuticle pusher to " help " the process along. The last time I saw her she insisted I buffed her nails with a 3 way buffer and haven't seen her since. Since I have used heat and no removal problems at all. Kelley On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Lynnette Madden <[email protected]> wrote: > Anna, > I e file most of my sog clients. I do not touch the nail and have not > ruined any nails doing it this way. Well, aside from my right hand!!! > I see major drying from the acetone soaking, no matter what way it is being > done. > > Buenos dias! > Lynnette Diaz-Madden > > www.facebook.com/nailtech > www.salon29.net > > Salon 29-where pampering and > personal attention is on its way! > > On Jan 1, 2011 2:18 PM, "Anna Z-James" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Angie doesn't that defeat the purpose of the soak off gel if you apply a > hard gel no matter how thin it is then apply a Shellac, Gellish, Gelez, > Axxium, Ecco or any other brand that is considered a soak off on top of the > hard gel then it's a hard gel service with an additional service added? > Right? > > I was understanding the original question to be what can you do to help > with not having to break the seal on some of the Soak Off Gel so that her > clients feel more at ease with damaging the natural nail. When the Soak off > Gel Polish products were introduced it is meant to target the natural nail > client that is looking for a non abrasive nail polish that last more then 4 > days. When you put a drill to the natural nail (even to break the seal) it > becomes an abrasive service to that natural nail defeating the purpose of > the service. I love that some of the other soak off gels have lasting life > spans but I too do not want to have to file each nail prior to the removal > of the product to apply a new color, I have not found any other products > besides Shellac that has such an easy removal time with out having to crack > the seal....however they do not have many colors to choose from nor have I > been able to get over the thickening of the products without having to heat > them up and shake them to death prior to the application. I'm sure in time > this will change but until then of course I keep on trying to keep with it. > > On the note with regard to the clients getting over zealous and spoiled > with the Gel Polish thinking that this is a replacement for acrylics: I > have made it very very clear that this DOES NOT replace any other artificial > service this product is only to prolong the life of your polish on the > natural nail it has a gel component that allows it to stay on longer does > not replace any artificial products. It will not make your nails stronger, > there is nothing on the market that is stronger or last longer then > acrylics. It promises to last up to 14 days if you get longer then that > your a lucky winner. I have had to give several clients an education on the > types of products and their strengths since Shellac was introduced they are > not manicurist they are clients they don't understand until they are told > what is what and why....We are the manicurist the professional that they > came to for a service we are the ones that hold the license that came with > the hours that we had to do for that license. While they sit down and start > to get what they ask for begin the class with "Now you understand that this > is a temporary service that requires maintenance within a time frame of 14 > days to 2 weeks?" if you have to give them the break down of strengths so > you sound more educated then them do it girl...they love that stuff you show > them that you know your profession to the fullest and they are impressed to > no end. > > I hate that your client did you that way especially while the holidays are > already tight in scheduling and that we all need every ounce of money we get > from our clients. But when you saw her I hope you kept your composer and > that you didn't show her any attitude or give her any satisfaction that she > had the upper hand in this situation? Next time you see her ask how she's > doing with her new girl never back down from her and be all in her face with > niceness and professionalism as I know you are all the time. Still allow > her the opportunity to come back to your chair, money is money and you have > to obviously earn this ones respect by showing her that you know your stuff > and that you are the best in your field. Next time show her the background > of the Shellac and some items where it clearly states that it's only to last > up to 14 days not any longer then 3 weeks and she will be impressed that you > put it on her and it lasted much longer then the 14 days and it's only gonna > stay that long cause you did them!!! > > I wish you all the best not only with this client but all of them cause > girl I got so many of those clients it's not even funny! > > Keep your head up and keep your professional hat on at all times! ;) > > Happy New Years Girls! > > *Anna*[image: :-*] > *Creations by Anna Z-James* > www.annazjames.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Angela R Wingerter <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, Jan 1, 2011 9:35 am > Subject: Re: NailTech:: Question and ot... > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To ... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > -- Kelley Marie Independent Manicurist 231-357-2819 Rapid City, MI 49676 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. 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