Yay! I'm so happy for you! On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:08 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote:
> Well, Ladies. It looks like the problem kinda solved itself. My co-worker > came to me today and said "I know its important to you for us to clean the > pedi chair properly so I will change the way I am cleaning it. I just don't > want us to have any problems". I replied that I wanted everything to be > good between us too, and all has been well. Thanks for all of your input! > Ruby > > -----Original Message----- > *From: "*Lynnette Madden" [[email protected]] > *Date: *02/28/2011 01:21 PM > *To: *[email protected] > *Subject: *Re: NailTech:: I need your help Angie/Sue > > GREAT idea, Ruby! > buenos dias, > Lynnette > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:56 AM, [email protected] < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Nice idea but she would have to move her client out of the chair, because >> there would be no place to put her feet while she pulls the foot plate up >> and does all the cleaning. Its not that she is doing things her way she is >> missing an entire step in the cleaning procedure according to state board. >> I'm sure there will be a win/win solution for us that's way it is important >> that I have the right info to discuss with them. I'm sure after the meeting >> everything will be fine. Oh, I just got a brainstorm. We all could do >> this. When we finish our pedi right before polishing we could have the >> client use the restroom like they seem to want to do at that time anyway, >> and do the cleaning as they are in the restroom. That way its no awkward. >> Then it would be running while they are being polished. What do you gals >> think of that? It just might work. >> I appreciate all of your input! >> Ruby >> -----Original Message----- >> *From: "*Susan Mang" [[email protected]] >> *Date: *02/28/2011 09:43 AM >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Subject: *RE: NailTech:: I need your help >> >> Angie, >> >> I thought of this too (I don't use one of these chairs either, so I'm not >> sure if that would work or not). >> The trouble with that is this: that brings you back to square one, the >> idea that Ruby's co-worker >> doesn't feel that what she is doing is wrong. If you look at it from the >> co-worker's point of view, >> she believes that what she is doing is correct, and doesn't want to change >> it. >> >> No matter what solutions you offer her, she likes the way she's doing >> things now. And I can under >> stand that....don't we all do things in our own ways? I personally don't >> do a mini-consultation before a >> new pedicure. I talk to them and ask them all that stuff while I'm in the >> room, getting them situated in >> the pedi chair, etc. I would not want someone to come into the salon >> where I work (have been for over 10 >> years), and tell me I have to change something. Which doesn't mean >> someone new wouldn't have good >> ideas....it just means that I feel like I'm doing what works for me. I >> understand when it comes to proper >> sanitizing that you are dealing with another issue. Obviously this >> co-worker has read what the manufacturer >> suggests, and she's following that, so she doesn't want to skip >> cleanliness/sanitizing all together....which would >> be a whole other issue. >> >> I remember.....years ago when I started doing nails, we weren't licensed >> in NY state (yup....been doing nails >> a long long long time). When they licensed us, I thought it was a big >> pain in the butt. I am certainly >> better about sanitization now....but you want to know the funny >> thing....back when we used >> one file on everyone (yup....that's what we did), we never saw fungus. Go >> figure. Perhaps it's because so many >> more people get their nails done. Or maybe because there are a lot of >> people doing nails and some of them pass >> this stuff around. I'd be more likely to believe it's from all the >> antibacterial products on the market and so >> many people taking antibiotics for every little sniffle, but that's just >> my opinion, and I am not in the medical >> field. >> >> I do believe that if you want to find a win/win with people, the first >> step is understanding their point of view (even if you >> don't agree with them). And build from there. >> >> My wish for Ruby is a wonderful peaceful working environment! >> >> Sue >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:39:14 -0800 >> From: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: NailTech:: I need your help >> To: [email protected] >> >> >> I do not use a chair like this so this might not work (but) why couldn't >> you run your cleaner through the pipes for the last 10 min of the service. >> While you are painting the toes or something. Maybe this would not run her >> behind. >> >> Angie >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Susan Mang <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Sun, February 27, 2011 5:22:18 PM >> *Subject:* RE: NailTech:: I need your help >> >> Hi Again..... >> >> I think you just found the key to answering your own dilemma.... >> >> it sounds to me like your co-worker is telling you that she thinks her way >> of cleaning the pedi chair is acceptable, and she doesn't want her schedule >> upset so that she can work every hour on the hour. >> >> It seems to me that there are a couple different things happening between >> you guys, and the hardest part to overcome might be the idea that you both >> want the other person to change the way they're doing things. >> >> Make it a win/win....(tons and tons of different ideas on this, the more >> you start thinking about what might work, the more they will come to you): >> >> Are you employees or renters? Do you both have to do things exactly the >> same, or could you do things differently? Understand that she has been >> there a long time, and (possibly??) done things only her way, and then you >> come in and want to upset the apple cart...doesn't mean what you are saying >> is wrong....just understand her position. >> >> Is there a way for you to sanitize the pedi chair before your client, >> without making it seem that you are undermining what she does or doesn't >> do? >> >> Can you go into your meeting and explain that you both have different >> ideas on how certain things should be done, and see if you can both do >> things your own way? (perhaps have some ideas on how you would present that >> to clients if asked why you do it this way and she does it another >> way....again, don't undermine what she does, just keep in mind that you have >> your own way you would like to do it also) >> >> And before I get totally slammed on this....I totally understand your >> concern that the pedi chair needs to be properly sanitized. Most important >> to you, FOR NOW, is you need to be making sure it is clean for YOUR use. >> Don't worry about winning the war right now (hopefully the war will come to >> an end and you both can be winners). Right now pick your most important >> battle. For many years, many very good nail technicians cleaned the pedi >> chairs the same way she is, because they didn't know any better. Once you >> know better, you can do better. Keep in mind, it is human nature to be >> defensive of the way you do something when someone tells you that you are >> doing it wrong. Let her get over that feeling. Work on being a team player >> with her, and things will go one of two ways....you'll become a team in the >> nail department, and eventually you can give her the information she needs >> so that she'll understand why you stood so firm on sanitizing the chair >> "your way", or you'll have to decide if you want to work in a salon and be >> that independent with your thinking. >> >> Also....as far as the mini consultation before doing new pedi >> clients.....why is she upset that you do this? You said she thinks it's >> rude.... >> rude to who? Listen to what she's saying..... be open to hearing >> her....she's either telling you why she doesn't do it, or she's saying she >> does it differently than you do, and doesn't agree with the way you're doing >> it. Either way, you will be learning something about her. Sometimes, it's >> not that people are not open to change, it is just the way the change is >> presented to them. >> >> It sounds like she has a pretty full appointment book, so there must be >> things she is doing right, either procedurally or personality wise. Make it >> a win/win for you.....see if you can learn as much from her as you want to >> teach her. Just imagine what a great team you can create if you you both >> take the best from each other! >> >> Good luck with it all, and keep us posted on how it all works out. >> >> Sue >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:12:35 -0500 >> CC: >> To: [email protected] >> From: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: NailTech:: I need your help >> >> Lynnette, >> Thanks! I printed the state board code for her and the next day she gave >> me the Muranos directions, and she told me that we need to go by Murano. I >> told her that state board supersedes manufacters instructions. In fact, she >> also told me that I could sit on the floor and use a footbath and that she >> would use the pedi chair. She doesn't want her schedule upset so that she >> can work every hour on the hour. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From: "*Lynnette Madden" [[email protected]] >> *Date: *02/27/2011 02:47 PM >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Subject: *Re: NailTech:: I need your help >> >> Ruby, >> It would be more of an "inconvenience" for her clients to get something >> from not cleaning correctly. And your clients, too. You said her clients >> have fungus. Well, there you go. >> There is not much that upsets my stomach, but filthy, disgusting pedi >> tubs does. >> Print up the State Board info and let them know this is UP TO DATE info, >> not directions from 7 years ago. >> Also, the link did not work because the first W was capitalized.. >> buenos dias, >> Lynnette >> >> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 2:25 PM, [email protected] < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Sue, >> Thanks for answering. I too would like a win/win situation, but my >> co-worker was very mad over the entire issue. She went to the owners >> because she and I don't agree about cleaning the chair. This topic came up >> before and she just blew me off. I went to her yesterday in a calm manner >> and ask her if we could try and resolve our problem because we never >> finished our conversasion from the previous day. After speaking to her she >> got really mad and told me " I have been here 6 years and built my clientele >> from nothing and I have to work on the hour every hour and I can not >> inconvience my client by making them wait ten more minutes to clean". So, >> after our disagreement I spoke to one of the owners and she suggested that >> we all have a meeting. My co-worker is also upset that I have a mini >> consultation before I do new pedi clients. She thinks its rude. I >> explained to her we need to know if they are having any problems or are >> diabetic. I have been at the salon there since Aug 2010 and she has been >> there for 6 years. She has been doing nails for 7 years and I have been >> doing nails about 8 years. The chair does not have air jets. I hope i am >> giving you all the info you need to give my your opinion. >> Thanks! >> Ruby >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From: "*Susan Mang" [[email protected]] >> *Date: *02/27/2011 01:46 PM >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Subject: *RE: NailTech:: I need your help >> >> Hi Ruby, >> >> Would love to give you some input, but wondering a few things first..... >> >> I'm not familiar with the Murano Pedi Chair.....just looked it up online, >> and am more confused than before about it. Does it work with >> air jets instead of water jets? From what I could find online, it looked >> like it has removable jets....is that accurate? >> >> And...wondering about the meeting....was it at your request? How long >> has she/you been working in the salon, and how long has she/you been doing >> nails. >> >> I would love to give you some input.....and I think I tend to look at >> things from a very different perspective than I did in the past. I try >> find the win/win in every situation..... >> >> Hope to hear back from you.... >> >> Sue Mang >> [email protected] >> Louis Anthony Salon >> Buffalo NY >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:58:12 -0500 >> CC: >> To: [email protected] >> From: [email protected] >> Subject: NailTech:: I need your help >> >> Hi All! >> Some of you may have heard me voice this matter in the past, but it seems >> to keep haunting me. As I was telling Athena and have received her input I >> would like as many opinions as I can get, because I am having a meeting next >> week with our salon owners and my co-worker. At our salon we have a >> Murano pedicure chair. Well, the cleaning instructions my co-worker gave >> me from Murano leave out the part where the tub is filled with water and EPA >> solution and circulated for ten minutes. In fact I looked on line and the >> instructions on line don't match the instructions she gave me. So, correct >> me if I am wrong. I am under the impression that state board instructions >> would supersede the manufactures. >> >> After every pedicure she has been rinsing with water and spraying the tub >> with scrubbing bubbles wiping it down and goes on with the next pedicure. >> Her argument is that the Murano doesn't need to be filled with water and >> EPA solution circulating for ten minutes, but only at the end of the day. >> Well, state board says differently. Please tell me if I'm wrong and an over >> zealot cleaning fanatic or if I'm going in the right direction. All opinion >> will be helpful to me. >> >> Other back ground info is that she worked on clients that appear to have >> nail fungus. She also was using MMA when I started working there and uses >> the same file on as many clients as she can. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Ruby Walker >> Redlands, CA >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NailTech" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NailTech" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NailTech" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lynnette Madden >> Salon 29 >> 229 Main Street >> East Greenville PA 18041 >> 215-541-9029 >> http://www.salon29.net >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NailTech" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NailTech" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NailTech" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NailTech" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NailTech" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NailTech" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > > > > -- > Lynnette Madden > Salon 29 > 229 Main Street > East Greenville PA 18041 > 215-541-9029 > http://www.salon29.net > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > -- Michelle Phoenix Owner & Elite Licensed Nail Technician Wet Paint Nail Spa *NAILS, SKIN & HAIR* www.wetpaintnailspa.com Online Booking Available (617) 868-0620 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. 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