They certainly have been many many times, but that's an entirely different animal than the rules for content hosting and publishing. Actions from network providers have (AFAIK) always been in conjunction with some traffic from or to the violating party rather than an otherwise legal content hosting arrangement.
Scott Helms On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:05 PM mark seery <mark.a.se...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I assume multiple networks/ ISPs that have acceptable use policies that call > out criminality and incitement to violence, for example: > > https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/comcast-acceptable-use-policy > > Have these AUPs been invoked previously for these reasons, or would that be > new territory? > > Sent from Mobile Device > > On Jan 10, 2021, at 2:52 PM, K. Scott Helms <kscott.he...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Right, it's not a list for content hosting. > > Scott Helms > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:42 PM <sro...@ronan-online.com> wrote: >> >> No, this is a list for Network Operators. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 10, 2021, at 5:32 PM, K. Scott Helms <kscott.he...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> This is a list for pushing bits. The fact that many/most of us have other >> businesses doesn't make this an appropriate forum for SIP issues (to use my >> own work as an example). >> >> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 4:52 PM <sro...@ronan-online.com> wrote: >>> >>> This is a list for Network Operators, AWS certainly operates networks. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:27 PM, K. Scott Helms <kscott.he...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> No, >>> >>> It really does not. Section 230 only applies to publishers, and not to >>> network providers. If this were a cloud hosting provider list then you'd >>> be correct, but as a network provider's list it does not belong here. >>> >>> >>> Scott Helms >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 3:21 PM Lady Benjamin PD Cannon <b...@6by7.net> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> As network operations and compute/cloud/hosting operations continue to >>>> coalesce, I very much disagree with you. Section 230 is absolutely >>>> relevant, this discussion is timely and relevant, and it directly affects >>>> me as both a telecom and cloud compute/services provider. >>>> >>>> >>>> —L.B. >>>> >>>> Lady Benjamin PD Cannon, ASCE >>>> 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC >>>> CEO >>>> b...@6by7.net >>>> "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in >>>> the world.” >>>> FCC License KJ6FJJ >>>> >>>> <Speedtest9118.png> >>>> <Ben LIC.png> >>>> >>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 12:13 PM, K. Scott Helms <kscott.he...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> It's not, and frankly it's disappointing to see people pushing an agenda >>>> here. >>>> >>>> >>>> Scott Helms >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:37 AM <sro...@ronan-online.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> NANOG is a group of Operators, discussion does not have to be about >>>> networking. I have already explained how this represents a significant >>>> issue for Network Operators. >>>> >>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Mike Bolitho <mikeboli...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> It has nothing to do with networking. Their decision was necessarily >>>> political. If you can specifically bring up an issue, beyond speculative, >>>> on how their new chosen CDN is somehow now causing congestion or routing >>>> issues on the public internet, then great. But as of now, that isn't even >>>> a thing. It's just best to leave it alone because it will devolve into >>>> chaos. >>>> >>>> - Mike Bolitho >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 6:54 AM <sro...@ronan-online.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Why? This is extremely relevant to network operators and is not political >>>> at all. >>>> >>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:51 AM, Mike Bolitho <mikeboli...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Can we please not go down this rabbit hole on here? List admins? >>>> >>>> - Mike Bolitho >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 1:26 AM William Herrin <b...@herrin.us> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Anybody looking for a new customer opportunity? It seems Parler is in >>>> search of a new service provider. Vendors need only provide all the >>>> proprietary AWS APIs that Parler depends upon to function. >>>> >>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/09/amazon-parler-suspension/ >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Bill HErrin >>>> >>>>
