Imagine if Tier 1 ISPs had a censorship free clause that required
companies like Twitter, Facebook, and Amazon to provide services free
of censorship or have IP blocks blackholed. They would lose hundreds
of millions of dollars per day. I bet they would reverse their tone in
a hurry.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/idaho-internet-provider-to-block-facebook-twitter-over-their-trump-bans/
Thank you,
Kevin McCormick
*From:*NANOG <[email protected]> *On Behalf
Of *mark seery
*Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:06 PM
*To:* K. Scott Helms <[email protected]>
*Cc:* NANOG Operators' Group <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: Parler
I assume multiple networks/ ISPs that have acceptable use policies
that call out criminality and incitement to violence, for example:
https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/comcast-acceptable-use-policy
Have these AUPs been invoked previously for these reasons, or would
that be new territory?
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On Jan 10, 2021, at 2:52 PM, K. Scott Helms
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Right, it's not a list for content hosting.
Scott Helms
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:42 PM <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
No, this is a list for Network Operators.
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On Jan 10, 2021, at 5:32 PM, K. Scott Helms
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
This is a list for pushing bits. The fact that many/most
of us have other businesses doesn't make this an
appropriate forum for SIP issues (to use my own work as an
example).
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 4:52 PM <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This is a list for Network Operators, AWS certainly
operates networks.
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On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:27 PM, K. Scott Helms
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
No,
It really does not. Section 230 only applies to
publishers, and not to network providers. If this
were a cloud hosting provider list then you'd be
correct, but as a network provider's list it does
not belong here.
Scott Helms
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 3:21 PM Lady Benjamin PD
Cannon <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
As network operations and
compute/cloud/hosting operations continue to
coalesce, I very much disagree with you.
Section 230 is absolutely relevant, this
discussion is timely and relevant, and it
directly affects me as both a telecom and
cloud compute/services provider.
—L.B.
Lady Benjamin PD Cannon, ASCE
6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC
CEO
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
"The only fully end-to-end encrypted global
telecommunications company in the world.”
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On Jan 10, 2021, at 12:13 PM, K. Scott
Helms <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
It's not, and frankly it's disappointing
to see people pushing an agenda here.
Scott Helms
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:37 AM
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
NANOG is a group of Operators,
discussion does not have to be about
networking. I have already explained
how this represents a significant
issue for Network Operators.
On Jan 10, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Mike
Bolitho <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
It has nothing to do with networking.
Their decision was necessarily
political. If you can specifically
bring up an issue, beyond speculative,
on how their new chosen CDN is somehow
now causing congestion or routing
issues on the public internet, then
great. But as of now, that isn't even
a thing. It's just best to leave it
alone because it will devolve into chaos.
- Mike Bolitho
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 6:54 AM
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Why? This is extremely relevant to
network operators and is not
political at all.
On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:51 AM, Mike
Bolitho <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Can we please not go down this
rabbit hole on here? List admins?
- Mike Bolitho
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 1:26 AM
William Herrin <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Anybody looking for a new
customer opportunity? It seems
Parler is in
search of a new service
provider. Vendors need only
provide all the
proprietary AWS APIs that
Parler depends upon to function.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/09/amazon-parler-suspension/
Regards,
Bill HErrin
