What does Bell buying MTS do? Does it change your statement or will the MTS 
portion of Bell still peer locally?


> On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:10 PM, Bill Woodcock <> wrote:
>> On Jul 20, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Hiers, David <> wrote:
>> For traffic routing, is anyone constraining cross-border routing between 
>> Canada and the US?  IOW, if you are routing from Toronto to Montreal, do you 
>> have to guarantee that the path cannot go through, say, Syracuse, New York?
> No.  In fact, Bell Canada / Bell Aliant and Telus guarantee that you _will_ 
> go through Chicago, Seattle, New York, or Ashburn, since none of them peer 
> anywhere in Canada at all.
> Last I checked (November of last year) the best-connected commercial networks 
> (i.e. not CANARIE) in Canada were Hurricane Electric, MTS Allstream, Primus, 
> and Zip Telecom, all of which peer at three or more Canadian IXes.  So, 
> they’re capable of keeping traffic in Canada so long as the other end isn’t 
> on Bell or Telus, which only sell U.S. bandwidth to Canadians.
> In November, only 27% of intra-Canadian routes stayed within Canada; 64% went 
> through the U.S.  That’s way worse than five years ago, when 60% stayed 
> within Canada, and 38% went through the U.S.
> As has been pointed out, Canada has been building IXPs…  Just not as fast as 
> the rest of the world has.  They’re behind the global average growth rate, 
> and behind the U.S. growth rate, which is why the problem is getting worse.  
> Bandwidth costs are falling faster elsewhere, so they’re importing more 
> foreign bandwidth.
>                                -Bill

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