Your underlying assumption is incorrect.
You can include a subset of the project's functionality in a release.
Put another way, you can have source code in your project repositories
that does not get built into the release. Be clear in your release
documentation what is included in the release and what is not.
Alternatively, you can designate some components as "interim" (or
something) and include them in the release.
A third option would be to move some components into the Nebula
Incubator which already exists.
I recommend the first and/or second options unless there is some really
compelling reason to do otherwise.
Wayne
On 14/05/16 10:24 AM, Wim Jongman wrote:
Hi,
Wayne we must split the project in two because we cannot release all
widgets. How do we achieve this?
Cheers,
Wim
On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 5:12 AM, Wayne Beaton <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This is what is in the Neon simultaneous release repository.
I'm a little concerned that these have been appearing in
simultaneous releases for a while, Sure the world hasn't stopped
turning, but this is a violation of the process.
Strictly speaking, NatTable should not be consuming the unreleased
components from Nebula.
wbeaton@build:~> find downloads/releases/ -name *eclipse.nebula*
| grep -v nattable
downloads/releases/galileo/200909241140/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/galileo/200909241140/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable.source_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/galileo/201002260900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/galileo/201002260900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable.source_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/neon/201512181000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201511041902.jar
downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201604151927.jar
downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.richtext_1.0.0.201604151927.jar
downloads/releases/neon/201603301000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602191853.jar
downloads/releases/neon/201602051000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602011643.jar
downloads/releases/kepler/201306260900/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable.source_1.0.0.jar
downloads/releases/kepler/201306260900/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.grid_1.0.0.HEAD.jar
downloads/releases/kepler/201306260900/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
downloads/releases/mars/201510021000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201509022342.jar
downloads/releases/mars/201602261000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602111357.jar
downloads/releases/helios/201102250900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/helios/201102250900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
downloads/releases/helios/201009240900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/helios/201009240900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
downloads/releases/helios/201006230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/helios/201006230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
downloads/releases/indigo/201106220900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/indigo/201106220900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
downloads/releases/indigo/201109230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/indigo/201109230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
downloads/releases/indigo/201202240900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
Clearly projects want to consume Nebula components and a few have
been sneaked in.
Regardless, however, Nebula has been around for a very long time
and has never done a release. It needs to graduate.
Wayne
On 12/05/16 04:49 PM, Wim Jongman wrote:
Hey S. Gonzales!
This is only what NatTable consumes. What about the rest of the
projects?
Wim
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Wayne Beaton <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
wbeaton@build:~> find downloads/releases/neon/ -name
*eclipse.nebula* | grep -v nattable
downloads/releases/neon/201512181000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201511041902.jar
downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201604151927.jar
downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.richtext_1.0.0.201604151927.jar
downloads/releases/neon/201603301000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602191853.jar
downloads/releases/neon/201602051000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602011643.jar
HTH,
Wayne
On 12/05/16 04:44 PM, Wim Jongman wrote:
We should be able to investigate what is being consumed by
the release train. If this also includes one or more of the
"unsupported widgets" then we need to decide if we add those
as well or let these consumers know that they are in violation.
David could you produce a list with references to
org.eclipse.nebula projects?
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Dirk Fauth
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
As far as I understood Wim, the idea is to first clean
up the list of committers, specify the widgets/projects
that should be in the release and possibly update the
widget versions to 1.0.0 to match the version rules
regarding maturity.
From my point of view the set of widgets for the release
is set. At least that would be what the community
expects. What is currently communicated as released
should be released. I think that would be the easiest
way to proceed. Not sure if Wim planned to also move
some of the incubation widgets to the release aswell.
Regarding the IP log, do we need to wait for the cleanup
or should we send it in immediately via
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.nebula/iplog/preview ?
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Wayne Beaton
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
A bunch of projects are already using Nebula
widgets. This is a bit problematic from an EDP POV
because Nebula has never done (AFAICT) a formal
release and is still incubating.
It's long past time to do a proper release and
graduate the project.
Can we do this soon?
AFAICT, the project downloads are IP clean, so
getting the IP Log approved should only take a
couple of seconds of effort.
The project is hosting downloads [1] (though, I'd
prefer that you not use the term "Projects" like you
are; that term is already confusing enough).
There is still lots of activity on the project, but
it does seem that many/most of the widgets are stable.
What's stopping us from doing this?
Wayne
[1] https://www.eclipse.org/nebula/downloads.php
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