@Wayne
Should I reschedule the NatTable release for a date after the Nebula
release then?

@Wim
When do you plan to do the release? I planned end of May to be before Neon
RC3. But if the review for nebula starts 1st of June that doesn't work out.
Am 15.05.2016 21:46 schrieb "Wim Jongman" <[email protected]>:

> Excellent.thanks for the info.
>
>  June 1 sounds great.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wim
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Wayne Beaton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'd rather just push hard on getting Nebula released.
>>
>> At a minimum, can we just identify the components that are already being
>> marked as "1.0" and include them in the release?
>>
>> The IP Log looks pretty clean to me. I can add this to the June 1st
>> review slot. All I need is review documentation and approval from the PMC.
>>
>> As I said earlier, you can release any subset of the project code. The
>> biggest challenge here, I think, is to create downloads that include only
>> the stuff included in the release. So let me turn this around... can you
>> create that download in time for a June 1st release?
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14/05/16 12:43 PM, Dirk Fauth wrote:
>>
>> @wayne
>>
>> Do you mean I have to remove the RichTextEditor dependency for the
>> NatTable release? That would be a big issue for other projects like
>> papyrus!
>>
>> Do you think it would be possible to do a graduation for nebula before
>> the release train?
>> Am 14.05.2016 6:31 PM schrieb "Dirk Fauth" <[email protected]>:
>>
>> Do we really need to do this? I mean we only publish the released widgets
>> in the release repo. And for the incubation widgets we would have another
>> repo. Or is that separation not enough?
>> Am 14.05.2016 4:24 PM schrieb "Wim Jongman" <[email protected]>:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> Wayne we must split the project in two because we cannot release all
>> widgets. How do we achieve this?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Wim
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 5:12 AM, Wayne Beaton < <[email protected]>
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> This is what is in the Neon simultaneous release repository.
>>>
>>> I'm a little concerned that these have been appearing in simultaneous
>>> releases for a while, Sure the world hasn't stopped turning, but this is a
>>> violation of the process.
>>>
>>> Strictly speaking, NatTable should not be consuming the unreleased
>>> components from Nebula.
>>>
>>> wbeaton@build:~> find downloads/releases/ -name *eclipse.nebula* | grep
>>> -v nattable
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/galileo/200909241140/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/galileo/200909241140/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable.source_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/galileo/201002260900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/galileo/201002260900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable.source_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/neon/201512181000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201511041902.jar
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201604151927.jar
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.richtext_1.0.0.201604151927.jar
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/neon/201603301000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602191853.jar
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/neon/201602051000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602011643.jar
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/kepler/201306260900/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable.source_1.0.0.jar
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/kepler/201306260900/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.grid_1.0.0.HEAD.jar
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/kepler/201306260900/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/mars/201510021000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201509022342.jar
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/mars/201602261000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602111357.jar
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/helios/201102250900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/helios/201102250900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/helios/201009240900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/helios/201009240900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/helios/201006230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/helios/201006230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/indigo/201106220900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/indigo/201106220900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/indigo/201109230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/indigo/201109230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
>>>
>>> downloads/releases/indigo/201202240900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
>>>
>>>
>>> Clearly projects want to consume Nebula components and a few have been
>>> sneaked in.
>>>
>>> Regardless, however, Nebula has been around for a very long time and has
>>> never done a release. It needs to graduate.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/05/16 04:49 PM, Wim Jongman wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey S. Gonzales!
>>>
>>> This is only what NatTable consumes. What about the rest of the projects?
>>>
>>> Wim
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Wayne Beaton < <[email protected]>
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> wbeaton@build:~> find downloads/releases/neon/ -name *eclipse.nebula*
>>>> | grep -v nattable
>>>>
>>>> downloads/releases/neon/201512181000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201511041902.jar
>>>>
>>>> downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201604151927.jar
>>>>
>>>> downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.richtext_1.0.0.201604151927.jar
>>>>
>>>> downloads/releases/neon/201603301000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602191853.jar
>>>>
>>>> downloads/releases/neon/201602051000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602011643.jar
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/05/16 04:44 PM, Wim Jongman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We should be able to investigate what is being consumed by the release
>>>> train. If this also includes one or more of the "unsupported widgets" then
>>>> we need to decide if we add those as well or let these consumers know that
>>>> they are in violation.
>>>>
>>>> David could you produce a list with references to org.eclipse.nebula
>>>> projects?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Dirk Fauth < <[email protected]>
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As far as I understood Wim, the idea is to first clean up the list of
>>>>> committers, specify the widgets/projects that should be in the release and
>>>>> possibly update the widget versions to 1.0.0 to match the version rules
>>>>> regarding maturity.
>>>>>
>>>>> From my point of view the set of widgets for the release is set. At
>>>>> least that would be what the community expects. What is currently
>>>>> communicated as released should be released. I think that would be the
>>>>> easiest way to proceed. Not sure if Wim planned to also move some of the
>>>>> incubation widgets to the release aswell.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding the IP log, do we need to wait for the cleanup or should we
>>>>> send it in immediately via
>>>>> <https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.nebula/iplog/preview>
>>>>> https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.nebula/iplog/preview
>>>>>  ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Wayne Beaton < <[email protected]>
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A bunch of projects are already using Nebula widgets. This is a bit
>>>>>> problematic from an EDP POV because Nebula has never done (AFAICT) a 
>>>>>> formal
>>>>>> release and is still incubating.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's long past time to do a proper release and graduate the project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can we do this soon?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AFAICT, the project downloads are IP clean, so getting the IP Log
>>>>>> approved should only take a couple of seconds of effort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The project is hosting downloads [1] (though, I'd prefer that you not
>>>>>> use the term "Projects" like you are; that term is already confusing
>>>>>> enough).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is still lots of activity on the project, but it does seem that
>>>>>> many/most of the widgets are stable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's stopping us from doing this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] <https://www.eclipse.org/nebula/downloads.php>
>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/nebula/downloads.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Wayne Beaton
>>>>>> @waynebeaton
>>>>>> The Eclipse Foundation
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