I'd rather just push hard on getting Nebula released.

At a minimum, can we just identify the components that are already being marked as "1.0" and include them in the release?

The IP Log looks pretty clean to me. I can add this to the June 1st review slot. All I need is review documentation and approval from the PMC.

As I said earlier, you can release any subset of the project code. The biggest challenge here, I think, is to create downloads that include only the stuff included in the release. So let me turn this around... can you create that download in time for a June 1st release?

HTH,

Wayne


On 14/05/16 12:43 PM, Dirk Fauth wrote:

@wayne

Do you mean I have to remove the RichTextEditor dependency for the NatTable release? That would be a big issue for other projects like papyrus!

Do you think it would be possible to do a graduation for nebula before the release train?

Am 14.05.2016 6:31 PM schrieb "Dirk Fauth" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

    Do we really need to do this? I mean we only publish the released
    widgets in the release repo. And for the incubation widgets we
    would have another repo. Or is that separation not enough?

    Am 14.05.2016 4:24 PM schrieb "Wim Jongman" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>:

        Hi,


        Wayne we must split the project in two because we cannot
        release all widgets. How do we achieve this?

        Cheers,

        Wim


        On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 5:12 AM, Wayne Beaton
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            This is what is in the Neon simultaneous release repository.

            I'm a little concerned that these have been appearing in
            simultaneous releases for a while, Sure the world hasn't
            stopped turning, but this is a violation of the process.

            Strictly speaking, NatTable should not be consuming the
            unreleased components from Nebula.
            wbeaton@build:~> find downloads/releases/ -name
            *eclipse.nebula* | grep -v nattable
            
downloads/releases/galileo/200909241140/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
            
downloads/releases/galileo/200909241140/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable.source_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
            
downloads/releases/galileo/201002260900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
            
downloads/releases/galileo/201002260900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable.source_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
            
downloads/releases/neon/201512181000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201511041902.jar
            
downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201604151927.jar
            
downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.richtext_1.0.0.201604151927.jar
            
downloads/releases/neon/201603301000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602191853.jar
            
downloads/releases/neon/201602051000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602011643.jar
            
downloads/releases/kepler/201306260900/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable.source_1.0.0.jar
            
downloads/releases/kepler/201306260900/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.grid_1.0.0.HEAD.jar
            
downloads/releases/kepler/201306260900/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
            
downloads/releases/mars/201510021000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201509022342.jar
            
downloads/releases/mars/201602261000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602111357.jar
            
downloads/releases/helios/201102250900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
            
downloads/releases/helios/201102250900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
            
downloads/releases/helios/201009240900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
            
downloads/releases/helios/201009240900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
            
downloads/releases/helios/201006230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
            
downloads/releases/helios/201006230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
            
downloads/releases/indigo/201106220900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
            
downloads/releases/indigo/201106220900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
            
downloads/releases/indigo/201109230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
            
downloads/releases/indigo/201109230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
            
downloads/releases/indigo/201202240900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar

            Clearly projects want to consume Nebula components and a
            few have been sneaked in.

            Regardless, however, Nebula has been around for a very
            long time and has never done a release. It needs to graduate.

            Wayne


            On 12/05/16 04:49 PM, Wim Jongman wrote:
            Hey S. Gonzales!

            This is only what NatTable consumes. What about the rest
            of the projects?

            Wim

            On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Wayne Beaton
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                wbeaton@build:~> find downloads/releases/neon/ -name
                *eclipse.nebula* | grep -v nattable
                
downloads/releases/neon/201512181000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201511041902.jar
                
downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201604151927.jar
                
downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.richtext_1.0.0.201604151927.jar
                
downloads/releases/neon/201603301000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602191853.jar
                
downloads/releases/neon/201602051000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602011643.jar

                HTH,

                Wayne


                On 12/05/16 04:44 PM, Wim Jongman wrote:
                We should be able to investigate what is being
                consumed by the release train. If this also includes
                one or more of the "unsupported widgets" then we
                need to decide if we add those as well or let these
                consumers know that they are in violation.

                David could you produce a list with references to
                org.eclipse.nebula projects?



                On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Dirk Fauth
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                wrote:

                    As far as I understood Wim, the idea is to first
                    clean up the list of committers, specify the
                    widgets/projects that should be in the release
                    and possibly update the widget versions to 1.0.0
                    to match the version rules regarding maturity.

                    From my point of view the set of widgets for the
                    release is set. At least that would be what the
                    community expects. What is currently
                    communicated as released should be released. I
                    think that would be the easiest way to proceed.
                    Not sure if Wim planned to also move some of the
                    incubation widgets to the release aswell.

                    Regarding the IP log, do we need to wait for the
                    cleanup or should we send it in immediately via
                    
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.nebula/iplog/preview ?



                    On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Wayne Beaton
                    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    wrote:

                        A bunch of projects are already using Nebula
                        widgets. This is a bit problematic from an
                        EDP POV because Nebula has never done
                        (AFAICT) a formal release and is still
                        incubating.

                        It's long past time to do a proper release
                        and graduate the project.

                        Can we do this soon?

                        AFAICT, the project downloads are IP clean,
                        so getting the IP Log approved should only
                        take a couple of seconds of effort.

                        The project is hosting downloads [1]
                        (though, I'd prefer that you not use the
                        term "Projects" like you are; that term is
                        already confusing enough).

                        There is still lots of activity on the
                        project, but it does seem that many/most of
                        the widgets are stable.

                        What's stopping us from doing this?

                        Wayne

                        [1] https://www.eclipse.org/nebula/downloads.php

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                        @waynebeaton
                        The Eclipse Foundation
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