Let's just go with the current release plan for NatTable and consider it a learning experience.
I'm not to concerned about a short time gap this once. Wayne <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Dirk Fauth <[email protected]> </div><div>Date:2016-05-17 02:30 (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: Wim Jongman <[email protected]>, Wayne Beaton <[email protected]> </div><div>Cc: Nebula Dev <[email protected]> </div><div>Subject: Re: [nebula-dev] Nebula release and graduation </div><div> </div>@Wayne Should I reschedule the NatTable release for a date after the Nebula release then? @Wim When do you plan to do the release? I planned end of May to be before Neon RC3. But if the review for nebula starts 1st of June that doesn't work out. Am 15.05.2016 21:46 schrieb "Wim Jongman" <[email protected]>: Excellent.thanks for the info. June 1 sounds great. Cheers, Wim On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Wayne Beaton <[email protected]> wrote: I'd rather just push hard on getting Nebula released. At a minimum, can we just identify the components that are already being marked as "1.0" and include them in the release? The IP Log looks pretty clean to me. I can add this to the June 1st review slot. All I need is review documentation and approval from the PMC. As I said earlier, you can release any subset of the project code. The biggest challenge here, I think, is to create downloads that include only the stuff included in the release. So let me turn this around... can you create that download in time for a June 1st release? HTH, Wayne On 14/05/16 12:43 PM, Dirk Fauth wrote: @wayne Do you mean I have to remove the RichTextEditor dependency for the NatTable release? That would be a big issue for other projects like papyrus! Do you think it would be possible to do a graduation for nebula before the release train? Am 14.05.2016 6:31 PM schrieb "Dirk Fauth" <[email protected]>: Do we really need to do this? I mean we only publish the released widgets in the release repo. And for the incubation widgets we would have another repo. Or is that separation not enough? Am 14.05.2016 4:24 PM schrieb "Wim Jongman" <[email protected]>: Hi, Wayne we must split the project in two because we cannot release all widgets. How do we achieve this? Cheers, Wim On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 5:12 AM, Wayne Beaton <[email protected]> wrote: This is what is in the Neon simultaneous release repository. I'm a little concerned that these have been appearing in simultaneous releases for a while, Sure the world hasn't stopped turning, but this is a violation of the process. Strictly speaking, NatTable should not be consuming the unreleased components from Nebula. wbeaton@build:~> find downloads/releases/ -name *eclipse.nebula* | grep -v nattable downloads/releases/galileo/200909241140/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz downloads/releases/galileo/200909241140/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable.source_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz downloads/releases/galileo/201002260900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz downloads/releases/galileo/201002260900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable.source_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz downloads/releases/neon/201512181000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201511041902.jar downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201604151927.jar downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.richtext_1.0.0.201604151927.jar downloads/releases/neon/201603301000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602191853.jar downloads/releases/neon/201602051000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602011643.jar downloads/releases/kepler/201306260900/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable.source_1.0.0.jar downloads/releases/kepler/201306260900/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.grid_1.0.0.HEAD.jar downloads/releases/kepler/201306260900/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar downloads/releases/mars/201510021000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201509022342.jar downloads/releases/mars/201602261000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602111357.jar downloads/releases/helios/201102250900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz downloads/releases/helios/201102250900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar downloads/releases/helios/201009240900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz downloads/releases/helios/201009240900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar downloads/releases/helios/201006230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz downloads/releases/helios/201006230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar downloads/releases/indigo/201106220900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz downloads/releases/indigo/201106220900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar downloads/releases/indigo/201109230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz downloads/releases/indigo/201109230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar downloads/releases/indigo/201202240900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar Clearly projects want to consume Nebula components and a few have been sneaked in. Regardless, however, Nebula has been around for a very long time and has never done a release. It needs to graduate. Wayne On 12/05/16 04:49 PM, Wim Jongman wrote: Hey S. Gonzales! This is only what NatTable consumes. What about the rest of the projects? Wim On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Wayne Beaton <[email protected]> wrote: wbeaton@build:~> find downloads/releases/neon/ -name *eclipse.nebula* | grep -v nattable downloads/releases/neon/201512181000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201511041902.jar downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201604151927.jar downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.richtext_1.0.0.201604151927.jar downloads/releases/neon/201603301000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602191853.jar downloads/releases/neon/201602051000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602011643.jar HTH, Wayne On 12/05/16 04:44 PM, Wim Jongman wrote: We should be able to investigate what is being consumed by the release train. If this also includes one or more of the "unsupported widgets" then we need to decide if we add those as well or let these consumers know that they are in violation. David could you produce a list with references to org.eclipse.nebula projects? On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Dirk Fauth <[email protected]> wrote: As far as I understood Wim, the idea is to first clean up the list of committers, specify the widgets/projects that should be in the release and possibly update the widget versions to 1.0.0 to match the version rules regarding maturity. From my point of view the set of widgets for the release is set. At least that would be what the community expects. What is currently communicated as released should be released. I think that would be the easiest way to proceed. Not sure if Wim planned to also move some of the incubation widgets to the release aswell. Regarding the IP log, do we need to wait for the cleanup or should we send it in immediately via https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.nebula/iplog/preview ? On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Wayne Beaton <[email protected]> wrote: A bunch of projects are already using Nebula widgets. This is a bit problematic from an EDP POV because Nebula has never done (AFAICT) a formal release and is still incubating. It's long past time to do a proper release and graduate the project. Can we do this soon? AFAICT, the project downloads are IP clean, so getting the IP Log approved should only take a couple of seconds of effort. The project is hosting downloads [1] (though, I'd prefer that you not use the term "Projects" like you are; that term is already confusing enough). There is still lots of activity on the project, but it does seem that many/most of the widgets are stable. What's stopping us from doing this? Wayne [1] https://www.eclipse.org/nebula/downloads.php -- Wayne Beaton @waynebeaton The Eclipse Foundation _______________________________________________ nebula-dev mailing list [email protected] To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev _______________________________________________ nebula-dev mailing list [email protected] To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev -- Wayne Beaton @waynebeaton The Eclipse Foundation -- Wayne Beaton @waynebeaton The Eclipse Foundation _______________________________________________ nebula-dev mailing list [email protected] To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev -- Wayne Beaton @waynebeaton The Eclipse Foundation _______________________________________________ nebula-dev mailing list [email protected] To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev
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