Hi Laurent,

That is great news! Do you think we should contact Microsoft to know if we can 
reverse engineer the ribbbon? Maybe the EMO (in cc) is able to advise us.

We are talking about recreating the Microsoft Ribbon which is attached in a 
picture.

Cheers,

Wim

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From: nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On 
Behalf Of Laurent Caron
Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2019 23:29
To: Nebula Dev
Subject: Re: [nebula-dev] Question about "Ribbon"

Hi Team,

Well I've checked RWT and the source code has not been published.

So I've decided to start to work on this feature. Do you know any "flat icon" 
library that can be included in a EPL project ?

Have a nice evening,

Laurent


Le lun. 25 févr. 2019 à 10:10, Laurent Caron 
<laurent.ca...@gmail.com<mailto:laurent.ca...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
Hi Ralf,

I agree with you: Microsoft is very proud of Ribbon Bar (that's why it has been 
introduced in the File Explorer of Windows 10), but the gap for users is very 
important. I remember the arrival of Office 2007, many people where puzzled, 
but once
you accustomed, you are very productive. I agree also with the fact that 
companies should take care of this UI feature, it can be a big mess (as far as 
I know, the Ribbon was tested during 2 years by Microsoft Labs before being 
shipped).

I never heard about RWT but I'll have a look, thanks.

By the way, does anyone interested in this project ?

Laurent


Le dim. 24 févr. 2019 à 23:16, Ralf Heydenreich 
<rheyd...@justmail.de<mailto:rheyd...@justmail.de>> a écrit :
Am 24.02.2019 um 17:29 schrieb Laurent Caron:
Hi,

Well if my level of Wim's language is good enough, a sentence with the word 
"batmobile" means "Green light" 😉

As far as I remember, the look of Hexapixel's ribbon was really close to the 
"office 2007" look... Nowadays, Word's ribbon is more flat, without gradient...
So my question is : should we start from the original ribbon by Emi, should we 
build a new project from scratch or should we migrate project like FXRibbon 
([1]) from JavaFX to SWT ?

I'm interested by this widget, who else ?

Laurent

[1] https://www.pixelduke.com/fxribbon/



Hi Laurent,

a few months ago I've also player around with the Hexapixel Ribbon library, but 
I've decided to not use it. I think, the concept of a "ribbon bar" is specific 
for Microsoft applications, especially for Windows users. MaOS and Linux users 
have other UI concepts.

Nonetheless, I think we can work on such a ribbon widget for SWT, since a lot 
of applications are running under Windows (in my experience). Therefore it's 
good to have a well known concept of a UI.

Btw, there's also a "Ribbon Widget Toolkit" 
(https://code.google.com/archive/p/rwt/), but it is completely in Chinese 
language and I haven't work with it.
Ralf





Le dim. 24 févr. 2019 à 11:57, Wim Jongman 
<wim.jong...@remainsoftware.com<mailto:wim.jong...@remainsoftware.com>> a écrit 
:
IIRC someone said there is no patent issue anymore.
To the batmobile, let's go.

________________________________
From: nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org<mailto:nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org> 
<nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org<mailto:nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org>> on 
behalf of Christian Pontesegger 
<christian.ponteseg...@web.de<mailto:christian.ponteseg...@web.de>>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 8:59:34 AM
To: Nebula Dev
Subject: Re: [nebula-dev] Question about "Ribbon"

Interesting IP situation. Do you now, does Eclipse try to sort out such
issues, eg by contacting Microsoft to find an alternate way of
licensing?

Christian

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