Hi, The article tells me that Microsoft did not let the ribbon go. We can duplicate it and if people use it they probably will get away with it until the point their software makes enough money after which Microsoft will come knocking.
Maybe it is better if we make you make your own version of a tabbed toolbar that not tries to mimic the ribbon? Cheers, Wim On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:53 PM Laurent Caron <laurent.ca...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Wayne, > > Thank you for your answser. > > Well, the current situation seems to be blurry. Last year Corel lost a > patent lawsuit and this article [1] explains that nobody can clarify the > situation. > > Do you think that the IP team can get in touch with Microsoft's legal > department ? > > Laurent > > [1] https://www.infoq.com/news/2018/02/Ribbon-UI > > > Le mer. 6 mars 2019 à 21:12, EMO EMO <e...@eclipse-foundation.org> a > écrit : > >> I don't see anything in the thread that suggests that the legal situation >> has changed from what's been captured in CQ 3187 >> <https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3187>. Does anybody >> have any insight into whether not the license on this content has changed? >> >> Whatever the case, if you want to pursue this, send a note to >> lice...@eclipse.org to ask for help. Your request will get addressed >> faster if you can provide pointers to the current state Microsoft's legal >> claims on the topic. >> >> Wayne >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 4:17 AM Wim Jongman < >> wim.jong...@remainsoftware.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Laurent, >>> >>> >>> >>> That is great news! Do you think we should contact Microsoft to know if >>> we can reverse engineer the ribbbon? Maybe the EMO (in cc) is able to >>> advise us. >>> >>> >>> >>> We are talking about recreating the Microsoft Ribbon which is attached >>> in a picture. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> >>> Wim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto: >>> nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] *On Behalf Of *Laurent Caron >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 March 2019 23:29 >>> *To:* Nebula Dev >>> *Subject:* Re: [nebula-dev] Question about "Ribbon" >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Team, >>> >>> >>> >>> Well I've checked RWT and the source code has not been published. >>> >>> >>> >>> So I've decided to start to work on this feature. Do you know any "flat >>> icon" library that can be included in a EPL project ? >>> >>> >>> >>> Have a nice evening, >>> >>> >>> >>> Laurent >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Le lun. 25 févr. 2019 à 10:10, Laurent Caron <laurent.ca...@gmail.com> >>> a écrit : >>> >>> Hi Ralf, >>> >>> >>> >>> I agree with you: Microsoft is very proud of Ribbon Bar (that's why it >>> has been introduced in the File Explorer of Windows 10), but the gap for >>> users is very important. I remember the arrival of Office 2007, many people >>> where puzzled, but once >>> >>> you accustomed, you are very productive. I agree also with the fact that >>> companies should take care of this UI feature, it can be a big mess (as far >>> as I know, the Ribbon was tested during 2 years by Microsoft Labs before >>> being shipped). >>> >>> >>> >>> I never heard about RWT but I'll have a look, thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> By the way, does anyone interested in this project ? >>> >>> >>> >>> Laurent >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Le dim. 24 févr. 2019 à 23:16, Ralf Heydenreich <rheyd...@justmail.de> >>> a écrit : >>> >>> Am 24.02.2019 um 17:29 schrieb Laurent Caron: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> Well if my level of Wim's language is good enough, a sentence with the >>> word "batmobile" means "Green light" 😉 >>> >>> >>> >>> As far as I remember, the look of Hexapixel's ribbon was really close to >>> the "office 2007" look... Nowadays, Word's ribbon is more flat, without >>> gradient... >>> >>> So my question is : should we start from the original ribbon by Emi, >>> should we build a new project from scratch or should we migrate project >>> like FXRibbon ([1]) from JavaFX to SWT ? >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm interested by this widget, who else ? >>> >>> >>> >>> Laurent >>> >>> >>> >>> [1] https://www.pixelduke.com/fxribbon/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Laurent, >>> >>> a few months ago I've also player around with the Hexapixel Ribbon >>> library, but I've decided to not use it. I think, the concept of a "ribbon >>> bar" is specific for Microsoft applications, especially for Windows users. >>> MaOS and Linux users have other UI concepts. >>> >>> Nonetheless, I think we can work on such a ribbon widget for SWT, since >>> a lot of applications are running under Windows (in my experience). >>> Therefore it's good to have a well known concept of a UI. >>> >>> Btw, there's also a "Ribbon Widget Toolkit" ( >>> https://code.google.com/archive/p/rwt/), but it is completely in >>> Chinese language and I haven't work with it. >>> >>> Ralf >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Le dim. 24 févr. 2019 à 11:57, Wim Jongman < >>> wim.jong...@remainsoftware.com> a écrit : >>> >>> IIRC someone said there is no patent issue anymore. >>> >>> To the batmobile, let's go. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org <nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org> >>> on behalf of Christian Pontesegger <christian.ponteseg...@web.de> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 24, 2019 8:59:34 AM >>> *To:* Nebula Dev >>> *Subject:* Re: [nebula-dev] Question about "Ribbon" >>> >>> >>> >>> Interesting IP situation. Do you now, does Eclipse try to sort out such >>> issues, eg by contacting Microsoft to find an alternate way of >>> licensing? >>> >>> Christian >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nebula-dev mailing list >>> nebula-dev@eclipse.org >>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >>> from this list, visit >>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev >>> >>> >> >> -- >> The Eclipse Management Organization >> Eclipse Foundation >> _______________________________________________ >> nebula-dev mailing list >> nebula-dev@eclipse.org >> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >> from this list, visit >> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev > > _______________________________________________ > nebula-dev mailing list > nebula-dev@eclipse.org > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/nebula-dev
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