I really appreciate the information.  Another question...If I want to
design a clock using a 7 segment VFD tube can a clock design using
standard 7 segment LED's be adapted to drive the VFD tubes.  I know
the voltages for the plate, filament and grid drive circuitry are
different but I am talking about the logic from the PIC
microcontroller or whatever the LED design was using.  If I used an
existing  microcontroller that was programmed for a seven segment LED
clock would the same firmware work for driving the 7 segment VFD tubes
or are there timing issues that would be a problem? I understand there
are dedicated VFD driver chips available.  Do they use BCD inputs as a
LED 7 segment clock would use.....thanks again for your extremely
helpful information..

Regards

Robert W8UUU


On Aug 14, 6:52 pm, threeneurons <[email protected]> wrote:
> | Can anyone recommend ... information to get me started. They
> | seem to be like regular triode tubes but driving them seems sort of
> mystical
>
> Here's a nice little primer from Noritake:
>
> http://www.noritake-elec.com/vfd_operation.html
>
> Basically, the same info I read from one of their databooks, in the
> early 80's. Yep, they are directly heated triodes, with a different
> purpose. The filament voltage is kept low enough, so that they don't
> glow. The anodes are painted with the phoshor, and glow when hit by
> electrons. Anodes are also called segments. A positive voltage is
> applied to the grids (relative to the cathode [filament]) in order to
> get conduction, but a negative potential (~-5V) is applied to ensure
> that they are truly OFF. Grids are often used for multiplexing, in
> multidigit tubes. To light one up. Apply a positive voltage to the,
> selected digit's, grid and the segments (anodes) that need to be lit.
> Voltage ~50V, in multiplexed apps. Anode current is usually in 100s of
> mircoamps range, but the grids can draw a few milliamps. Grids drawing
> current is something usually only seen in power triodes, but that's
> due to the positive potential.
>
> Nothing really too mystical about them. I like using two "like"
> technologies in a clock like application. For example, adding a
> dekatron, as a pendulum, in a nixie clock. Both neon. For a VFD
> project, how about mixing an eye tube with it. Use one, or two, as a
> colon separator. Eye tubes like an EM80 or EM84, usually need a plate
> voltage of 200 to 250V. They, however, only use about 3mA. Build a
> switcher that outputs 50V to 60V, then add a simple multiplying ladder
> (of 1N914 diodes, and low value caps; 0.1 to 10uf) to get eyetube
> voltgage.
> .

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