I mentioned 300V because that was the rating of the transistors.
Cobra, the DMMT5551S would actually work very well for my IN12 driving
application, and I also appreciate the bases being on one side, thanks
for helping me discover this component!
-Paul


On Mar 11, 11:06 pm, David Forbes <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 3/11/12 4:44 PM, Cobra007 wrote:
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> >> Then don't turn on the other tube at that time! I turn on only one tube
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> > That is not completely true, it's not that I turn on both tubes at the
> > same time, it is because the current starts to flow through the wrong
> > tube because IT CAN. With a 170V anode voltage and a 50V clamping
> > zener, the minimum voltage on either of the tubes (on or off) is 120V.
> > A tube that has 120V, is switched off but was switched on just a
> > fraction earlier (due to multiplexing) will leak current from anode to
> > ground through the zener clamping diode. You can't stop that unless
> > you disconnect the anode from the HV power supply, through an extra
> > transistor or something else.
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> > I agree that adding complexity will in most cases reduce the
> > reliability. In my case, it is not so much that the circuit becomes
> > more complex (replacing 8 transistors in 1 package by 8 discrete
> > transistors) it is more an increase in PCB complexity. So I am not
> > worried that it will decrease the reliability.
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> > Michel
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> I am confused. If you are turning off one tube then turning on the other
> tube, and operating at a low duty cycle (I assume you're still
> discussing the dimmed case), then there will be a long delay between
> turning off the first tube and turning on the second tube. So the first
> tube should have time to deionize. Is the leakage strong enough to make
> a glow? For how long?
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> My Nixie watch displays an interesting result when one tube is broken -
> the other tube will light all cathodes faintly when the broken tube is
> selected. That's because all the cathodes are clamped to 50V, but the
> power supply makes about 200V to an open circuit. (I connect both anodes
> directly to HV without resistors.) In that case, the tube is lighting
> when it shouldn't. But there is a broken tube, so there's no reason to
> make the display function properly in that case.
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> I provide display blanking in my watch, which is accomplished by feeding
> an MPU output to the HV supply feedback node through a carefully-chosen
> resistor, which makes the HV drop to 110V when the bit is set to 1. This
> allows me to turn off the display and not excite the case described
> above in normal operation. It's a very low cost solution to blanking, as
> I share the MPU pin with the accelerometer enable.
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> The long and short of it is that you ought to be able to use a 50V
> driver chip in a two-tube design with a bit of effort.
>
> --
> David Forbes, Tucson AZ

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